grandparents judith and harold harper were waving good-bye to their carefree golden years.were full-time parents again. >> i agreed from the first day i would take care of her, not knowing what kind of shape she was going to be in, not knowing what mental state she would be in. >> reporter: erika's father had never been a big part of her life so a court granted full custody of erika and her baby sister. you worked your whole life. this is supposed to be your time to kick back and put your feet up. that don't bother you. >> it turned out exactly what i thought it was. the reason with the children and stuff. >> reporter: four years before the shootings, harold are retired from his long time meat packing job and expecting to ride his harley. >> noaa the sunset. >> i had been a trip going into canada and most every why and that had to stop. >> he knew i couldn't maintain these children without him. >> i love those little kids. >> i love my grandparents. >> reporter: do you think they sacrificed a lot to do this? >> yes. my grandpa loves his harley. >> but, you know, people do w

grandparents, judith and harold harper were waving goodbye to their carefree golden years. full-time parents again. >> i agreed from the first day that i would take care of her, not knowing what kind of shape she was going to be in, not knowing what mental state she'd be in. >> erica's father had never been a big part of her life. so, a court granted judith and harold full custody of erica and her baby sister. >> you worked your whole life. this is supposed to be your time. >> yeah. >> to kind of kick back, put your feet up. but that's not for you? >> that doesn't bother me for a bit. i admit me and my husband are a bit different. >> it didn't turn out exactly how i thought it was because -- well, you know the reason, the children and stuff. >> four years before the shootings, harold had retired from his long-time meat packing job, expecting to ride his harley into the sunset. >> i had a california trip. i've been into canada, most everywhere. well, that had to stop. >> he knows that i couldn't maintain these children without him. >> i don't want her to. and i love those li

harper's weekly." which we all know about. harold actually had met helen leale harper for -- before she passed away. i can say i know someone who knew dr. leale's grandfather. that is my connection to him. today, we know it for the educational center and the tors which opened in 2012. -- tours that opened in 2012. there is over 10,000 lincoln books now. my wife and i used to live in we angeles, so in 2012 attended a performance at the pasadena playhouse. some of you might've heard of her -- some of you might have heard of hersey felder. he has done one-man shows. he has done various composers in character. but he decided that he was going to do dr. leale accompanied by a 45 piece orchestra. we attended, i attempted to speak to him but was never able to. he was very good, the program was good, my only criticism, he was wearing a polyester uniform. [laughter] the question i always got, so i had to add this slide. could president lincoln have survived today? we serve -- we show you the picture of bobby kennedy, did not survive. gabby giffords, who was shot a few years back, a congresswoman in tucson wh