>> well, i agree entirely with harold koh that america is a power for good. and is often the solution. and i would go further that america has often been the only power -- the only really effective power for good in 194 foo5 and that has liberated millions of people throughout the 20th century. and the united states is exceptional and will remain exceptional, i hope, by reason of its power. and its basic good will. it is a benign hagman and we in europe are extremely -- there are many europeans who are foolish when they don't recognize that. and the problem of the international criminal court -- i understand that it derives from nuremberg and the treaty of rome derives and i can understand it and i applaud it. but i do also understand for any u.s. administration, the threat of frivolous or malicious legal assault bithe european allies is a very dangerous one and so membership of the criminal court is a very difficult decision to make. and i can see why no u.s. administration has yet wished to commit to that. i mean, there was an example not involving the inte

. >> well, i agree entirely with harold koh that america is a power for good and is often the solution. and i would go further to say that america has often been the only power -- the only really effective power for good. in 1945, the only really -- there were no human rights organizations like amnesty or human rights watch. there was one magnificent massive human rights organization that was the u.s. army. and that has liberated millions of people throughout the 20th century. and the united states is exceptional and will remain exceptional, i hope, by reason of its power and its basic good will. it is a benign feeling. and there are many europeans who are foolish when they don't recognize that. and the problem at the international criminal court -- i mean, i understand it derives from nuremberg and the treaty of rome derives from the london charter and i can understand it and i applaud it but i do also understand for any u.s. administration, the threat of frivolous or malicious legal sort by -- by the european allies amongst others is a very dangerous one and so membership of the crim