harold leventhal was an interesting judge. he'd been involved in democratic politics. have been the lawyer handling the fannie lou haimber issues. he'd been an oil and gas regulatory lawyer, a power commission lawyer in washington and became a wonderful circuit court judge with a specialty in administrative law. so, i clerked for him for a year. and i clerked for a year nor a year for potter stewart. potter stewart had been involved in republican politics. his father had been mayor of cincinnati. he imhad run for the cincinnati council. he'd practiced law in new york city. so, harold leventhal from the democratic side and potter stewart from the republican side were both similar in their approach to issues, in their love of writing, for example, and crafting opinions, so it taught me that there is a little bit of a difference between judging and politics. if people came from two very different political backgrounds. getting a clerkship on the supreme court is a total lottery. there are many, many, many people qualified to do it and you need luck and i had luck to get t

>> he is talking about harold leventhal, his manager. of the weavers, who came to visit woody in the hospital. he writes to pete seeger, when they visited me a few weeks ago how you might not have to go to jail for another two or more years for refusing to testify before my un-american committee. they are all a big bunch of the very un-american people i ever heard of. to me you are just another good mortar peed on my side. i never did every even hear you speak out, act out, nor so much here you breathe at one breath of hatred of the overthrew sort. my crazy committee to me are always my very worst sorts of haters, always. anyways. >> that was the letter that woody guthrie wrote in defense of pete seeger before the house un-american activities. what did woody guthrie feel were his most important achievements? >> as he did say, just telling the story of people who've he encountered and putting their stories to music. he often said, i have not written an original board in my life. everything i write down is something that i heard from you o