. >> you have read the plays of harold pinter, i have a few, of course, i have seen them performed too. >> does that have an inannounce on. >> i don't think he has had an influence. i love to claim -- >> he and beckett were friends. >> yeah. i liked him but i guess he is not one of mine, do you know what i mean. >> rose: you've also said that writing is like, how would you say, writing is similar to excavation. >> yeah. it wasn't very long ago i read about a paleontologist, they walk over the same bit of land because they have a sense for whatever reason, a sense of, that there might be fossils there. and they will walk and walk and walk. and then looking for tiny-- and if third instinct was right f they find it and begin to dig they unearth an entire dinosaur fossil. and i do feel writing is a little bit like that. for me at least. i'm pursuing these accidents and intuitions and if they were right, i unearth something that was before it a complete miss trae to me. >> you also have said in that series of interviews i read that one said to you that the writing process doesn't get any be