he was running for time magazine and ahead of time inc., harold ross, the new yorker hated each other, voluptuously, holiday say, publicly hated each other. hersey had been reporting four times since 1939. at one point really grooming him to be the heir apparent to time inc. >> not to interrupt, i very timing five as kids would say now. he was of that type. he was not a fat new york jewellike a. j. liebling. he was an delicate figure. >> and he was also from yale, across -- [inaudible] >> right. >> sorry. also when you read this, that time and the light dispatches hersey wrote, the rfi cry -- vra far cry for what he is writing for the new yorker later on. >> as somebody who cares only about literary style i think that's a future important point. >> you run with it. >> he had written one hugely significant piece come in historical terms, and currently significant piece for the new yorker before that, right? >> i'm going to back to back you in the second after a teacup but that's how hersey did come to the new yorker. he actually breaks up with lewis because lewis is far too chauvinisti

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