minister most responsible for this is the honorable member who i think actually whose father was harold wilsonso that doesn't really fit. >> thank you, mr. speaker. will the prime minister join me in praising the hard work of the honorable member -- [inaudible] and for ensuring that incisions taken at local levels concerning wind turbines remain local? however many of my constituencies are becoming increasingly concerned about the green fields becoming solar fields. should decisions regarding solar fields be subject to the same rules as wind turbines at? >> well first o what i join hern praising the excellent work done by the right of the members, being carried on by the minister in seven oaks. i think they're both done a very good job of bringing some sanity to the situation with onshore wind. on the issue of solar panels, of course this government did substantially reduce the tariffs to make sure that this industry was not over subsidized because all these subsidies end up on consumers of bills that we should think very carefully about that. >> [inaudible] the second best survival rate in ch