sos, thank you, haroot, again. [applause] >> but what i discovered in starting this research was that kirk's and mine had some interesting similarities. my family came to america -- i am the son of an immigrant, just as kirk was. beth of our fathers started out as farmers in fresno. both of our fathers came over to this country as immigrant refugees. my case, my dad came on a ship in the 1920s, and there were two babies on the ship, a ship of refugees, and two babies, one was rempel, my dad be and the other one was -- is the family was part of the largest contingent on the boat of -- mose e mostly armenians on this refugee ship, which because of that and because rempel and armenians were in the same bolt i considered miss something of a cousin of armenians anyway. [applause] >> thank you. so, turns out that kirk's father, the immigrant, and my father, the immigrant, were also -- arrived without any skills. they were farmers, and they were budding entrepreneurs. kirk's father was -- arrived illiterate and unskilled