>> on the understand what uncle tom was actually meant to be as the author harriet beecher stowe presented her novel. i think over the years both because the way the character has been portrayed in the show's and others is become distorted. if you read the novels she meant for tom to be an archetypal. he died because he to show the whereabouts and even while he was dying and one that i. if the interest in learning more i'm happy to tell about the character. islamic the subtitle, the whole purpose your book you have. >> the idea came about because a lot of times when you are a person of color and you have a conservative political view you get certain things your mother never intended for you and instead of doing that i use the title because it grabs you and then a sort of highlights one of the themes in the book which is if we are going to have an honest discussion in america about the topic of race. so the book in fact came about because of eric holder the attorney general making a statement because of our. i took exception to that comment because to me if we can't have an honest. to speak

guest: i smile because i understand what uncle tom was actually meant to be as the author harriet beecher stowe presented in her original novel. i think over the years, both because of the way the character has been portrayed minstrel shows, and tom is an arch type o a christ like figure and he died because he refused to divulge the whereabouts of a slave he helped escape and that's a noble character and one i embrace. so when i hear that term, it confound people and also -- if they're interested in learning more, i'm more than happy to tell them about the character. >> host: your title of your book you have probably gotten some response. >> guest: absolutely. absolutely. the idea came about because a lot of times when you're a person of color and you have conservative plate val views, you get certain names that your mother never intended for you, and rather than run away from that, i used it as a title because it grabs you and highlights one of the themes in the book, which is that if you're going to have an honest discussion in america about the topic of race it needs needs toe multifaceted,e

. >> i smile because i know what uncle tom was meant to be the author harriet beecher stowe presentedin her novel. i think that over the years both because of the way the character was portrayed in shows and other things that have become distorted that if you read the natural novel, she meant for tom to be an archetypal a christlike figure and this is a person with great mobility and a person who actually died because he refused to divulge the whereabouts of sleeves and help the state and forgave his assailant even as he was dying that is a noble character and one that i embrace. so when i hear the term i think it confounds people. if they're interested in learning more than happy to tell them about the character. >> the subtitle -- the full title of your but you've probably got in some response to what you called your book. >> absolutely, absolutely. the idea came about because a lot of times when you are a person of color and you have a conservative political view you give certain names that your mother never intended for you, and rather than run away from that i used it as the titl