i'm harriet cole, and i'm so happy to be here. i learned from dawn davis -- >> a wonderful woman, my editor. >> your editor. and i had the good fortune of working in a leadership role at ebony when the obamas decided to step into the race. and at the point at which michelle obama -- where there was a turn and she suddenly became, you know, the black woman shaking her neck, she was doing a story with ebony, and i was, i interviewed her. and we had a half hour. and the last question is always -- [inaudible] she said, yes. she said, i want you to come to chicago, walk down the street i grew up on, interview my mama and my friends. because of what you have done. the power of michelle obama is clearly more than her, you know? she doesn't stand as strong as she does in what could be considered an awkward body, you know? as powerful and clear and grounded. and it's so great that you've created this book to tell this incredible story. i'm wondering, did she know all of this history before your unearthing it? >> some of it was new to her.