i don't think voters will think about harriet meyers.e does have the connection when you're talking about social conservatives and fiscal conservatives. there is still that sort of base out there that is attractive when george w. bush comes in and rallies the troops in that sense. now, is it for all republicans? should they put him out everywhere? probably not. david: not for this one anyway. deroy, quickly. hold on a second. deroy go ahead. >> as my fiscal conservative my skin crawled, a nationalize. david: bailout. >> horrifying. bailout, nationalization was terrible. david: move on to something we might all agree on. candidate missing for the past couple debates, gop hopeful jim gilmore. ready to duke it out against fellow contenders. a former virginia governor. deroy, the only veteran running for president. i find that astounding, don't you? >> it is amazing originally 17 people running on gop side. i guess five on democrat side, out of 22 people he is only veteran. it is interesting as strategy to stay totally out of iowa an focus o