a civil right lead nero known, and he was a 11-year-old boy in 1927 when harriet muse got her son's back. and his job after school was, he would help a blind man sell brooms on the city mark that he made. and so he had this wonderful, like, kind of insider view to the story, and he was there when they came home that night, and so he is 98 but but i knew him because i had done numerous articles on him before and i think because i made the kobes in the community, i was able to get people to trust me. but it was the time the fact that i'm still there, this is -- these are my people. know them. and they trust me. >> maybe if she had said yes, you wouldn't have been ready to write this book. you said people like joanne poindexter. >> yes. joanne was in the newspaper's first black reporter, and so the neighborhood in roanoke that truevine is set in is called the west end and the microvillage that only the people rougher to as jordan's alley, and joanne was able to -- who is still -- she doesn't live in the neighborhood but she goes to church there and she was able to put me in touch with 80 an

a civil rights leader in roanoke and he was a 11-year-old boy in 1927 when harriet muse got her sons back and his job after school was, he would-- he would help a blind man sell brooms on the city market that he made. and so, he had this wonderful, like kind of insider view to the story and he was there when they came home that night. and so, he's 98 when i interviewed him for this book, but i knew him because i had done numerous articles on it before and so, i just think because i had made those connections in the community, i was able to get people to trust me, but it was really the time. the fact that i'm still there. this is-- these are my people. i know them and they -- they trust me. >> and maybe, if she had said, yes, go ahead, 25 years ago, you wouldn't have been ready to write this book. you'd have people like joanne poindexter and-- >> yes, joanne was the newspaper's first black reporter, so, the neighborhood in roanoke, the truevine west end and the microvillage in the west end only the old people refer to an as jordan's alley or jordan's alley and joanne was able to -- wh