it was the ghost of harriet tubman. wanda was kind enough to do the part.he episode, jack knight, who happens to be black, was pitching a joke, he thought it would be really funny if harriet tubman used the "n" word. it got somehow quieter just now. [ laughter ] >> wanda: everybody was like, aw, shucks! >> whoop! >> wanda: whoop, okay! >> which is what happened in the room when we were like, how do we get wanda to -- because we were like, that's really funny but how do we navigate that right now? so we actually had jack come to the record and, like, casually throw -- i mean, how do you -- do you remember? >> wanda: i remember it. i do remember it. it was so funny. because i was feeling as i was doing the script, i was like, this thing needs the "n" word in here somewhere. [ laughter ] and then we were recording. i saw jack, you know, in the booth. so i would do a take, then i would look in the window, and i just see jack. >> yeah. >> wanda: the producers, you guys are like this. >> yeah. >> wanda: like, i'm not going to ask her. so i'm like, oh, it's the "n

no, no, the argument is not that you don't tell the kids what harriet tubman was doing.mean, the story of "roots," itself, is a story of -- it's a story with an arc, right? it's a story of, you know, it's similar to the black national anthem, right? that, you know, it's -- it's a story where you are telling a story about suffering. but you're emphasizing the idea that suffering is something that heroic people have fought and partially overcome. and i mean, honestly, i think it's -- i think the story of black-americans is the most heroic story in -- you know, in the entire-american tapestry. and, of course, you are telling the kids why harriet tubman was doing the things that she was doing, and why she had to do them. but the point of starting with her is to start with a story of heroism and to start with agency and to start with the idea that there are people in the past who we want to identify with. and i don't think my -- i don't think my argument is that far off from -- actually, from what, you know, some of the things that my -- i guess, my colleague, nikole, wrote a

. >> and how do you teach about harriet tubman without telling the reason why harriet tubman needed too what she did and the purpose of the underground railroad, et cetera? >> what it's running away from, i'm not sure, if we can't talk about that. >> let's walk through your decision to teach at howard university over your alma mater, unc. how did you decide to go to howard instead? >> you know, there were basically three pivotal moments in my decision. one, i spent some time looking at the resumes of the members of the board of trustees who felt that they were better qualified than the faculty and the peer reviewers at the university of north carolina to determine that i was not worthy of tenure. and i really decided that i didn't want to be in a position where political appointees would have any say over my career or my life again. and then of course there was the largest donor to the school, the university of north carolina, walter huntsman, who we found out in the last six week had been lobbying against me privately and then who went on kind of a national speaking tour to castigate

so yes, i want nat turner, yet somewhat harriet tubman by yes also want phyllis wheatley. and the idea that thomas jefferson can actually say that poetry that is beneath -- what is it? beneath the ddd of responding to it critically? the fact he could dismiss the art and yet he could have children who were black. like i mean, to me i will never ever, ever consider thomas jefferson in the same way. i can say you at some very cool ideas that you took from let's say russo and locke. you spun it, took ownership of it. not going to forget you took some ideas from some white guys injured as well, and you are able to justify your bad behavior and somehow white americans today are thinking that he's a good guy. i want to know like how far you can go back that this is really important for me because i want to talk with you being an artist. artist. there's a wonderful paragraph here on page 26. see, i am going backwards. when you start with don and grace. donna and grace of the women that clint meets when he goes to monticello. that paragraph, that first paragraph if you could read t

so yes, i want nat turner, yes, i want harriet tubman, but yes, i also want phyllis wheatley. and the idea that thomas jefferson can actually say that poetry is beneath -- what is it? it is beneath the dignity of money to it critically. the fact that he could dismiss the art and have children who are black, i mean, to me, i will never, ever consider thomas jefferson in the same way. i can say you had some very cool ideas that you took from, let's say rousseau and locke, you spun it, took ownership of it, but i'm not going to forget that you took some ideas from white guys in europe as well, and you were able to justify your bad behavior and somehow, white americans today are thinking that he's a good guy. i want to know how far you can go back, but this is really important to me because i wanted to talk about you being an artist. there is a wonderful paragraph here on page 26. i am going backwards. donna and grace are the two women that clint meets when he goes to monticello. and that paragraph, that first paragraph, if you could read that for us, on page 26. clint: donna and

i want harriet tubman, but yes, i also want phyllis wheatley and the idea that thomas jefferson's can actually say that poetry that is beneath it. i mean, what is it it beneath the dignity of responding to it critically like the fact that he could dismiss the art and yet he couldn't have children who are black like i mean to me i will never ever ever consider thomas jefferson in the same way. like i can say, you know what you had some very cool ideas that you took from let's say rousseau on lock you spun it took ownership of it. i'm not gonna forget that you took some ideas from some white guys in europe as well and you're able to justify your bad behavior and somehow white americans today are thinking that he's a good guy and i want to know how far you can go back but this is really important. me because i wanted to talk about you being an artist and there's a wonderful paragraph here on page 26, so see am going backwards. just when you start with donna and grace and donna and grace are the two women that clint meets when he goes to monticello and that paragraph that first paragraph

any connections between north and south sites that could be built on, like harriet tubman sites? >> i think there's that possibility. with the 250th coming up, this is an opportunity for sites across the u.s. to share in these common threads that do weave themselves in their stories. you have somebody like nathaniel green who spent some time in morristown. so a shout out to some northern sites. so you have nathaniel green in morris town as a quarter master. he finds his way down south. so there are people and stories that easily link together. and that is the big, a big challenge or a big call to action that northern and southern sites, whether it is national park service sites, state sites, county sites, private sites. that's the big opportunity where the 250th is to be able to see how they can share resources, across promote and help share more and more of these stories. there can definitely be things built possible and it is up to those sites to do it. >> perfect. that resolves the questions in the chat here. if any other questions do come up, vanessa will be back at the end o

alright then from coral any connections between north and south sites that could be built on like harriet tubman insights in maryland and york. ability with the tooth coming up. this is an opportunity for site to cross the us to share in these common threads that do leave themselves in their stories. you have somebody like nathaniel greene who spend some time up in morristown? okay, so i'll shout out to some some northern sites. so you have nathaniel greene who's up in morristown as a quartermaster. he finds his way down south, so they're obviously people and stories that easily link together and that's kind of the big. a big challenge or a big call to action rather that northern and southern sites whether it's national park service sites state sites county sites. what a private site. that's the big opportunity with the 250th is to be able to see how they can share resources cross promote and help share more and more of these stories. so absolutely there can definitely be things built upon and it's up to those sites to do it. well, perfect that is exhausted the questions in the chat here out if

. >> my response to her, how does one teach about harriet tubman, and the underground railroad.ment was -- the story of "roots" itself is a story with an arc. it's a story of -- similar to the black national anthem. it's a story where you're telling a story of suffering and suffering is something that heroic people have fault and overcome. and honestly, i think it's -- the i think the story of story of black americans is the most heroic story in the entire american tapestry, and of course you tell the kids why she was doing the things she was doing. and the story is so start with heroism, and agency, and there are people in the past we want to identify with. i don't think my argument is that far off from -- actually from what -- some of the things that -- my colleague nicole wrote at the beginning of the 1619 project. this is a story how black americans were -- you know, the people who were sort of calulle the country to become what its founding documents said it was going to be. >> i want to keep you around. we have much more to talk about. this conversation not over yet. more

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figure six frederick douglass and harriet tubman on the face of admittance diversity of cracked openr to change. confederate ideology by contrast, was a acdefense of slavery in the political supremacy of slaveholders, flatly rejected the possibility of progress they were about enemies of change and sought to close that door to freedom and chain shots. the union causes frederick douglass himself invoking the war of ideas, was based upon the broadest and grandest declaration of human rights the world ever heard or read. the confederacy was on shocking denial. the right side won the war and falls to us to fulfill the promise of that victory, thank you. : : : high school and a member f the student advisory council of the institute of american history. i'm honored honored to inintrodr next guest, larry walker, acknowledge thing finalis of the 2021 lincoln prize. larry is a a businessman and civic leader just getting for college and from prize word altering the government this award. mary, please tell us about the 2021 finalists. >> thank you and good evening. it is a privilege to be here

fight those two inny the senate testimony she also talked about among others susan b anthony and harriet tubmand i stand on their shoulders and with the's brave people and how they have dreams of the quality had of their time and then make it easier for her to come along. they had done a lot of the hardest work already so she was very quick to give credit and that is special. so when we were working on the book we included the virginia military institute she wanted me to make reference into the fact that justice sandra day o'connor had been offered that opinion and said no justice ginsburg should have it they wanted people to know that because how special a person justice o'connor is and how grateful she was to her for that. >> the next one is personal so that's okay if you don't want to answer it did they give you any marriage advice? >> that's a great question. >> the answer is yes. >> do you care to share it? >> first i will say the best thing they did is just model what a partnership looks like. both of us took that to heart and i am very grateful for their example that's a single most impo

probably cite those in her testimony she also talked about among others, susan b anthony and harriet tubman and she helped them out and said i stand on their shoulders. she called them these brave people when she talks about how they had dreams of equality way ahead of their time but they fought for it and made it easier for her to come along as hard as it was in the 1970s they had at least done a lot of the work already and so she was very quick to give credit to others and i think that's really special and another thing just one more point when we were working on the book we included the virginia military institute and it was an important opinion to her. she wanted me to make reference in the introduction to the book to the fact that sandra day o'connor the first woman on the supreme court had been offered that opinion and had said no justice ginsburg should have it. justice ginsburg wanted me to know that because she wanted to know how special a person justice o'connor is andno how grateful she was to her. >> this next question is kind of personal. did justice ginsburg, you or your husba

important we have a holistic view of what resistance looked like that isn't limited to-- like a harriet tubman or frederick douglass or nat turner or any of these important historical figures, but that resistance was far more sometimes far more subtle, but no less important. host: as a matter of fact, resistance i was thinking about in particular going backwards in the book now is poetry. that we were able to connect with our feelings and then to write and responses to oppression, to hatred and that we were insisting and resisting with our humanity, with our artistic ability to make something beautiful out of trauma and i was wondering if you could lead to because you are a poet, what your-- i was wondering if you could share with us your incredible section on page 28. at the time, i encountered in the passage, just that paragraph. guest: at the time i encountered this passage i was finishing what would be my first collection poetry. i was riding in the aftermath of the ferguson uprising using poetry to process the insistent violence happening to black people all around attempting to put my li

anthony and harriet tubman and held them out and said, i stand on their shoulders and she called them these brave people. and she talks how they had dreams of equality way ahead of their time, but that they fought for it and made it easier for her to come along as hard as it was, in the 1970's, and they had at least done a lot of the hardest work already and so, she was very quick to give credit to others, and i think that's, that's really special and another thing, just one more point on this, when we were working on the book, we included the virginia military opinion, her only majority opinion in the book and it was an important opinion to her, she wanted me to make reference in the introduction to our book, to the fact that sab sandra day o'connor had been offered that opinion and she said that no, justice ginsburg should have it and she wanted to know how grateful she was to her for that. >> this next question is kind of personal so if you don't want to answer it that's okay. did justice ginsburg or her husband marty give you or your husband any marriage advice? >> that's a great

whereas john brown, with the help of harriet tubman, planned and organized an invasion of the south to free all slaves. one has to ask, where are the statues of john brown? one has to ask, how is it that we have statues within a short distance of where i stand now honoring those who would enslave but not honoring those who would set the slaves free. one has to ask how do these things happen. one has to also be appreciative of the fact that their removal is almost a certainty now. one has to be appreciative of the fact that there are those among us who have taken up the fight for freedom and they've brought it to the very floor of this house of representatives. i'm grateful to those who have concluded that we must remove the statues of those who would enslave and my prayer is we will replace them with some statues of those who fought to fee the slaves. this is my prayer. continuing with the text. whereas brown began his invasion at harper's ferry, west virginia, but was surrounded and captured by federal troops led by robert e. lee, losing two more sons in the fighting, there are still

to include extraordinary stories of women and women of color into the narrative, and you know, harriet tubmanascendent and sojourner truth will help to put to lie what is american conventional truth of what there is a long way to go for women. i'm the father of four daughters and i don't get it from them everyday, but i understand the world through their eyes, and they are all very capable, but they are not a white male. and that is still always a one lap ahead automatically in every race that jesse owens is not running. >> and in some ways, if i look at museums around the country, i think that they are doing a much better job in these stories especially in crossing these lines, and there is so much work that needs to be done, and one is a scholarship that we are at a point that we need to understand the challenge of the black women and black men vis-a-vis the fight for the vote of the women, and so these stories are not given to the public in a way that makes them accessible and central to public's understanding, but we are getting there. and that is the exciting thing. >> and when stacey ab

beginning to include extraordinary stories of women and women of color into the narrative and harriet tubman, you know, is just ascendant and ida b. wells will be ascendant and you will be able to hear more about the truth and people that will help put ally to so much of the conventional ways them of what american history is, so there is a huge long way to go, long way to go for women period that, i'm the father of four daughters and high don't get it every day from them, it's just, i understand a world through their eyes, and they're all very capable. but there are not a white male and that still has a kind of privileged position that is always, you know, is one lap ahead automatically. and in every race, -- that jesse owens is not running. >> in some ways, chance your question, if i look at museums around the country, i think they're doing much better job of looking at these different stories and crossing these lines. but i still think there's so much work to be done. and as the scholarship is now at a point where we can understand what's the challenge of black man vis-À-vis black route. -

that's because the sea level has risen so much the very forest that harriet tubman herself took groupsservice, i spoke with her and so many others, can't wait for you to see it tonight at 7:00 p.m. called "it's not too late." >>> good morning. i am abc7 news meteorologist mike nicco. expect faster sunshine but close to average temperatures >>> now to your first look at the new trailer for "nine perfect strangers" about a group of strangers at a wellness retreat and the madness that follows. we're thrilled to have melissa mccarthy, nicole kidman and more of the cast join us next month and it premieres on hulu august 18th with the first three episodes. take a look. ♪ >> you here for the ten-day retreat us 2.0? >> i certainly am. >> welcome. >> i want you all now to close your eyes. >> you want to get well? you want to heal? surrender yourself to me. i am going to fix you. >> so what is your story? >> what do you mean? >> everybody has a story. >> that's why she picked us. we complement each other's demons. >> this is a particularly volatile group. let's start the protocol. >> i've been f

how can i not when i think of what john lewis and martin luther king and harriet tubman and so many moread a meeting or members of the black caucus had a meeting with senator manchin to talk about voting rights? >> it's interesting that you mention that. our offices and staff have had an opportunity to have a dialogue, as i understand it, and that is at the top of my agenda when we return on monday. to reach out to him, also, my colleague in the house when i kyrsten sinema and i came in together. we want an open dialogue. i heard what he said in your clip. he believes he may have some support. so i think we have good rational and reason to sit down and see what we can do specifically as it relates to the filibuster and where we go from here with hr 1 and hr 4, which we are hoping to have that finalized our last hearing hopefully this month. we finished the hearings under the office of administration civil rights committee with congressman butlererfield and working with the judiciary to make sure they get their hearings completed so we can write the legislation and address all the issues,

would probably cite those two, and her senate testimony she talked about susan b anthony and harriet b tubman and how she help them out and said i stand on their shoulders and she called them these great people, she talks about how they had dreams of equality ahead of their time and they fought for and made easier for her, long as hard as this was in the 1970s in the orders work already so she was very quick to give credit to others. that is really special, another point on this when we were working on the book we included the opinion which is her only majority opinion in the book and it was an important opinion to her, she wanted me too make reference in the introduction to her book. to the fact that justice sandra day o'connor the first woman on the supreme court had been offered that opinion and said no justice ginsburg should have it, justice ginsburg wanted people to know that because she wanted people to know how special a person justice o'connor is and how grateful she was to her for that. >> this next question is kinda personal, if you don't want to answer it's okay, did justice ginsb

american-american children that they are oppressed, we can teach them about heroes whether it is harriet tubman who saved 750 slaves, rescued them in one night in south carolina or robert small who congressman deared a civil war ship and freed himself and everyone on that ship and their families. we can teach them about joseph p. rainy, first black-american to the house of representatives from the south carolina as a republican from south carolina's first congressional district. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: i ask unanimous consent to insert into the record a july 14 media matters entitled fox news obsession with critical race theory. apparently my republicans and the friends in the media need a new scare tactic because they don't want to talk about the economy or how we crushed the virus. we are not going to debate on whether racism exists in america because it does. and we are not going to debate whether we should teach our kids racism is wrong, we should. we aren't going to debate what kids learn, they can. and we sure as hell are not