and i said well, how about harriet tubman? because i read about harriet tubman. and the answer was yes. and i said, can i go to harriet tubman? an environmental perspective. and here i held my breath. that was sort of an unusual and answer came like again, yes, absolutely. absolutely. go for it. and so that's how this particular framework battalion telling harriet tubman story came about, that long history of just a widening lens of attention and concern and interconnecting different of study. so my answer to part b of your question, martha, concerning what was new new in this project would a, they'll be twofold really. harriet tubman is someone we're surrounded by, you know, especially as kids. i mean, you know, black history month and probably now women's history comes along and she's going to be plastered on the elementary school walls and i think that's good. i hope she sees that there might be some states in which her role in those spaces, you know, could be endangered because of concern about teaching the truth of black history in history. and harriet tubma

harriet tubman on the $200 bill. yeah, i like harriet tubman. i just don't think she should have replaced or should replace andrew jackson on the 20. i think the of bringing about a harriet tubman bill is great. just put her on the $200 bill and and you know we don't see $200 bills in circulation. but one of the effects, unfortunately, of the inflation of the last 40 years is that people are spending higher denominations. so let's give harriet tubman the honor of being on the $200 bill and keep andrew jackson on the 20 the parade for service members who served in the war on terror. talk about that. yeah, there have been very few recognitions, specifically of those who stepped up in the war on terror, who fought in afghanistan and who fought in iraq, who contributed in other ways. and we've seen this before. when there are controversial wars and the iraq war was certainly very controversial, we've seen that it's tough to have the public acknowledge the contributions of american servicemen and servicewomen. i think we need to do more because my re

over and introduced himself and i knew his name because he had actually last year walked from harriet tubman'sbirthplace to the canadian border and he introduced himself, ken johnston. and i said, oh my god, we have communicated. i hadn't met him in person. i said, why did you ask me that question? he said, i just wanted see your response. but part of what his point is, if you're predisposed opposed to doing something like this and and feel that you're good at it, that's a different i mean, on the other hand, you know, we've all seen the atrocious things that have happened in the last few weeks where and that level of just like insane. if you see the world in a way, you fear or feel fear for a person looking through your door them and you just shoot as a result of that. that's like a mental illness, right? and that is out there. and the one thing i didn't do, by the way when you take a walk like this you notice that the people that are the most intent on multiple no trespassing signs generally live houses that you would never want to go onto their property like you know you have got like five

for me, i choose to be like harriet tubman refused to spend time on people she would've left would haveleftbehind but use ye wisely. the final word? for boston what my goal is primary but water pressure what you want to get done? what you want to get done? ?dunkley wrong i love to get may bills over to the present by love to do transformational work. my plan with myself much as we can figure out there's a loneliness there should not be sorry for the next generation if the next generation's next cycle as it was for me it was not as hard as it was for the sisters or came before me. like cori bush, presley, it was thought it's hard for them as it was for the sisters or can refer them for like barbara lee. the ones who came before them like a shirley chisholm part we leave the place better than we can you member your time here is as a steward and you give what you have to give it. give this a just as long as you muster. [applause] >> i don't know about you all but this has been refreshing at a time when it can be difficult they are bouts of the orchestra start playing. before they do that when

major a major rallying cry for a amazing people, brilliant geniuses like frederick douglass, also harriet tubman, who lived in auburn. she lived in auburn to miles away from the auburn state prison for the second half of her life, from the 1850s, through her her passing in 1913. so why why wasn't there more organizing against the prison? and in answer to your question about his family, his family loved him. his family really loved him. and that was really clear. and they some members of the family testified for it on his behalf in court, which was an extremely brave thing to do. and some of them suffered enormous white retribution for their testimony. so i want to really honor their courage in testifying on behalf of william freeman. so some of them did that and and since then, some of them didn't. some of the members of his family and his community had difficulty hearing his challenge for some of the same reasons that the white people did, which was that they were also part of an economic system. they were also embedded in auburn. but the other reason was that, of course, they weren't clairvoya

she has a book on harriet tubman tiya miles yet we come alive earlier and that so i have those. and then there are magazine names. and so you to decorate. i have a book about decorating with books. well, let's take some calls. let's begin with james calling in from ohio. james, you're on book tv. what are you reading or do you have a question for carla hayden? well, since peter, you you this your favorite segment i got called in with list of books i top eight years and dr. hayden will be happy to hear that i was a librarian, media specialist for a couple of those years. yes. so mostly i'm a non mostly i'm a nonfiction guy. so i build up summer lists. got in the habit of that while i was teaching the big miss naomi rescues and eric conway on american business, how it taught us to lower the and love the free market. i've got leah penniman black earth wisdom which is a really nice book on black environmental wisdom. you might say, well, i'm reading jeff roe's jeff rosen's new book, the pursuit of happiness and how the classical writers influenced the founders. and i'm just trying t

caller: well, we were told initially that harriet tubman would be on the $10 bill.his has not happened, because i think president trump when he was in office decided to veto that legislation. and then the next thing is a lot of people would like to see larger bills because many times rather than having 10 $100 bills, there could easily be a $1000 bill that you could receive at the bank. the same would be true for the $500 bill. host: kramer, maryland, independent, good morning. caller: good morning. i would like to ask kamala harris to define what a woman is. we are supposed to ask and respect and understand what the transgender czar, even though they don't know what they are and what they want to be. second, would she donate her $400,000 family back into the kitty like trump did when he was in office? host: that was kramer in maryland. a few minutes left, a little bit more about the rules of the debate. we talked about some of this already. no opening statements, trump and harris are not allowed to ask each other questions. each candidate will only be allowed a pen