. >> harris miller is an industry spokesman for the schools. >> you acnauknowledge that the wrong-doing is on going even as we speak. >> unfortunately, yes. we haven't gotten rid of all the bad situations. i'm not sure what the sources are, but we have a zero tolerance policy. once in a while, you have to take an employee and take them out in the back and shoot them, not literally. >> and scrow have to do it before i come and call you. because if you have to be caught before you do something, you're never going to improve. >> absolutely. >> despite these problems, miller says for-profit schools still play a valuable role. >> we have the ability, the capacity to add to what the community colleges and traditional schools are doing, but we have to do it the right way. >> but for melissa, she's out $8,000 and now unemployed. we asked miller what will be done for students like her. you're going change going forward, that's beautiful, muse took the ears of your krutices, but what are you doing do? >> congress has the ability to change the law. change the law. >> it's not right to do that to s

those schools who did it are wrong -- >> reporter: lobbyist harris miller says even though these schoolsvital role by providing higher education to students who would not ordinarily get a degree, he admits the recruiting practices at many for-profit schools need to be changed. >> we should not have a situation where that many bad occurrences are being visible. >> you got caught? >> no, there are always problems, problems at traditional schools too. >> 15 for 15 -- >> that's right. >> you get the government money, why don't you give some back to these people who have been stuck after your improper solicitation? >> it's something we're going to look at. >> look at what? you don't have anything on that. what do you have in place to pay the people who are carrying -- >> nothing. >> reporter: whatever the industry's planforcin the uturatdoe chris cuomo, abc news, new york. >> amazing some of the tricks recruiters use. in some cases telling the agents, undercover agents, they're not penalized if they don't pay back their federal student lones, which we know is far from the truth. >> it is sad

host: our next guess is harris miller, president and c.e.o. of the career cleng asobeation. can you give our viewers a sense of you who represent? guest: we represent about 1500 institutions across the country, all post-secondary institutions, some offering certificates and diplomas, some bachelors and some post graduate degrees, including law schools, medical schools, and phd programs. all are operating under the triad, which means they have to be approved by the federal government, state government and one of the accrediting bodies. and the significance of that is only schools approved by all three are allowed to accept students who have federal what's called title 4 money, that comes out of the higher education act. collectively, the sector represents about 3,000 schools. we don't have all of them as members. and about 2.8 million students, which translates into about 10% of higher education today. host: would bit fair to say that these colleges would be known as for profit colleges? guest: most are. host: and how do you define that? guest: everybody has to make a profit,

harry. >> michelle miller in queens this morning. thank you. s now is cbs news legal analyst jack ford. jack, good morning. >> good to see you, harry. >> let's talk about these charges, criminal mischief, wreck less endangerment, trespassing. this is not minor stuff. >> it's not minor stuff right now. the question is going to be how is it going to work out down the road. sometimes the toughest decision for the prosecutor is not what am i going to charge somebody with, it's should i charge them in the first place and then where does this case go. i think you're going to see a lot of conversation, negotiations. right now these are not insignificant charges. >> it gets a little confusing. in a statement this guy, slater says, he said basically that oh, yeah, i did this. i'm responsible for this. at the same time when he was being -- you know, getting his bail, he said, well, i'm not guilty. so you have -- at one point you have what it tantamount to a confession. on the other hand you have not guilty. how do you get through all this stuff. >> i thin

tomorrow, on "washington l" harris miller will talk about the greater oversight for for-profit colleges. the effect of the dropping of the first atomic bomb o. cynthia kelly is our guest. >> democratic congresswoman today insisted that there was nothing improper about her role in obtaining government funds for one the bank in california. the house ethics committee has been investigating the incident. following an opening statement, we hear detailed presentations. this is about one hour and 15 minutes. >> i wanted to thank you all for being here today. the press and the public have now had an opportunity to read the statement of alleged violations and have shown a lot of interest in the ethics matter that is now pending before the committee on standards of official conduct. i am eager to be able to have an opportunity to present my case. that is why i have requested that the standards committee scheduled a hearing as soon as possible. unfortunately, the committee has not yet specified a date for a hearing on this matter, and given the congressional schedule, it is possible that no hearin

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miller is a progressive talk radio host of her own radio show. she came out as a lesbian last week on her program and she supports of course same sex marriage. bishop harryson joins us from london. senior pastor of the hope christian church, he is the chairman of stand for marriage d.c. and he opposes same sex marriage. dennis prager nationally syndicated talk radio host of his own program best-selling author and he opposes same sex marriage. and the san francisco district attorney, democratic nominee for attorney general of california, and she supports same sex marriage. stephanie, quickly, why did you come out? >> why do you assume i am for gay marriage. i might be afraid of commitment, you don't know. everybody knows that rush limbaugh married another woman, a little while ago, if i could not have the one man to complete me there was no other choice. >> larry: you finally decided to. >> yeah. >> larry: good choice. >> why are you opposed to two people who want to share a life together, being together? >> i'm not. i'm opposed to one thing, only one thing, the redefinition of marriage. i've don't think every society in history, including ours, every rel

miller is a progressive talk radio host of her own radio show. she came out as a lesbian last week on her program, and she supports, of course, same-sex marriage. bishop harryackson joins us from london. senior pastor of the hope christian church, he is the chairman of stand for marriage d.c., and he opposes same-sex marriage. he dennis prager is the nationally syndicated talk radio host of his own program. he's a best-selling author. and he opposes same-sex marriage. and kamala harris, the san francisco district attorney, she is the democratic nominee for attorney general of california, and she supports same-sex marriage. stephanie, quickly, why did you come out? >> why do you assume i am for gay marriage? i might be afraid of commitment. you don't know. i think everybody knows, larry, that rush limbaugh married another woman finally a little while ago. and if i could not have the one man that could complete me, there really was no other choice. >> larry: so you finally decided. >> yes. >> larry: do g. choice. dennis, why are you opposed to two people who want to share a life together being together? >> i'm not. i'm opposed to one thing and only one thing,

harry, we'll live it to the semipros. >> there you go. thanks very much, dave. we're joined here in jackson square by michelle miller.re. nine years. some of the best years of my life. >> absolutely. and your husband's roots run so deep here. >> very deep. we got married in that very church. >> it's emotional for you just standing here. >> it is. it really is. to be here to tell the story about this amazing band called the roots of music and to talk about them is to talk more about the marching band itself. they are part of an after-school program. its goal is to really keep these kids focused, keep them off the streets. so many of them, well, awful them, lived through the nightmare of katrina. >> one of new orleans levees has been breached. >> nothing done about it. >> reporter: johnny schwartz was 6 years old, his brother jonathan 8, when hurricane katrina hit. >> we was living in a two-story house. in the morning, the whole downstairs was flooded. i was like oh, my god. >> reporter: with the waters rising, the whole family got in a boat and made their way out. >> i remember we slept on the bridge for one day. >> r