frighten 15 -- for item 15, harry bernstein. >> thank you, commissioners. i must say that i appreciate missioner maxwell's concern. when would -- i must say that i appreciate commissioner maxwell 's concern. the issues that will be on the november ballot will either increase the demand for funding for housing -- so when will this come to the limits? i realize that some of these stats, what they are trying to do is figure out what those limits are. i also agree that of the concept brought up, that understanding design drought, which is a new concept to me, is obviously critical for the understanding of the new commissioners, in particular. it was not dismissed, i would say, but it was kind of like we have been there, done that, and new people just had to swim along. i think your concern is certainly appropriate that it be brought up whether in private -- i think the public would appreciate knowing more about that. the other ideas, the health of the rivers, i think it is not being fully considered. the state's water quality control plan asked for 40% unimpede