i want to bring back harry litman so we can finish the conversation that we began. and harry, thank you for your patience. donald trump is expected to appeal his sentencing. how does that play out with him as the sitting president? how likely is it that a higher court could overturn the ruling since there is no actual penalty? and timingwise, this is all supposed to go down on friday, six days from now, in new york city. ten days later he is to be inaugurated. can all of this be sorted out in that quick a period of time? >> timing is everything here, alex. of course he can appeal. anyone can appeal a conviction and a sentence. typically, though, a defendant has to wait until sentence is pronounced. that's when the conviction actually becomes final. then you bring your appellate remedies. so you're not able to jump the gun. of course trump is a specialist at jumping the gun in that he has at the end of the path the supreme court possibly to help him jump it. but he's going to have to come up with some novel argument. of course every court is saying unprecedented circ

. >> joining me now we have harry litman, former u.s. ttorney, former deputy assistant attorney general and author and host of talking feds on substack. harry, welcome, my friend. so donald trump asked the court to block this ban. and if the justices defy him, could trump potentially undo a tiktok ban with the stroke of a pen once he takes office? that would happen 24 hours after it goes into effect. >> by law, the short answer is no. >> the law is passed by congress. >> it says chinese companies you can't do business with. and just to decipher a little bit of the of the dialog from the court up front. bytedance is a chinese company. tiktok is not. but the question is who's first? speed? first amendment rights are being infringed. that's really where the court was going. that and justice alito saying there's an important foreign policy issue here. but no, if come the 19th, it goes into effect. you need a congressional enactment, as you had in the first place, to undo it. you can't do it with a stroke of a pen and listen issues about free

harry litman, your thoughts? >> well, on this part.he book prosecutor. but as you say, he has in in his by the book speak some pretty strong criticism. he has a footnote to 67 that at length quotes from. he lets justice sotomayor do the talking. but as she says, the court's created a law free zone. under the court's opinion, the famous navy seal six hypothetical would go forward, as would a flat out bribe to take a pardon. immune, immune, immune, immune, as she writes in the dissent. and he puts that all through. then, of course, he just also shows in practical terms why it was such a curve ball, why it took so much time, and why it eventually foiled any hope for a trial of trump. >> so harry litman, absent any concerns about criminal exposure, what do you predict could happen next? >> so look, nicole, i think we're really in a battle, but it's a historical battle. i think it's a really important report, notwithstanding that, as zoe lofgren said, there's not much new here. there is, by the way, an account of why he didn't bring the ins

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harry litman joins us, former u.s. puty assistant attorney general and former republican congressman david jolly of florida. harry, let's talk about this unconditional charge. i don't know what that means in legal speak, but in mine plain vanilla jersey talk. man, this brother seems to have been hooked up. >> you're exactly right. what it means is what it sounds like. nothing at all. he walks free. on the other hand, merchan makes a big distinction between trump the person and trump the president. so what it means is the very important sort of scarlet letter that the conviction is finalized. you needed sentencing to make that happen. and he enters, as you say, the presidency as the first and only felon, something he fought mightily to try to avoid and he's going to try to appeal from. so even though for him, there are no consequences. and merchan understood that he had to do it that way, or he might have been reversed on appeal. that's one of the things that the supreme court mentioned in letting it go forward. still, t

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