harry wheeler, i learned a lot from him because he was a schoolteacher, but he was the cochairman of our negotiating team that got the things done that i set got done. but harry knew how to deal with the media. so, every day, before we went into a negotiating session, kerry would call me at 7:00 in the morning. ok, what are we going to talk about today? i am looking to the books and i know all of the facts and the figures in those things. i tell him, harry came to the meeting and said first, so he got in the front page. i got nothing. [laughter] >> so i had to learn that you just come out be a technician for a harry wheeler and i started learning how to talk. >> i was 15 at the time and living in the neighboring community. my mother, who had always done domestic work or factory work went through one of those johnston anti-poverty programs and received her ged. her first nondomestic non-sweatshop job was working for it and their accounting department. it was a steady paycheck for the first time. she worked for a few days, then the rebellion hit. the city was under quarantine, which mea