. >> host: well, let's bring kim hart from politico into our conversation. welcome, kim. >> host: thank you. you mentioned cybersecurity, that's becoming a much bigger issue for you and the industry. where do you, what do you think about the direction that cybersecurity legislation is going and the white house's involvement in how the private sector should be involved in that discussion? >> guest: i think at the big level it's all healthy and all important, you know? there are various views about a major, comprehensive approach to all elements of privacy. there are others who say let's take off the pieces and move them in -- we're willing to be engaged in any and all of it. we recently were a strong supporter of mike rodgers' bill which is one of the first to get moving, we actually launched it at ncta there with him and his team. we think that kind of thing is critical because the biggest thing is, you know, my view is what you don't know can hurt you, and you have the government who has all kinds of access to information about cyber threat and other roles

our political director chuck todd is here, as is the pollster peter hart, "meet the press" moderator david gregory, and from washington, nbc's andrea mitchell. and chuck, let's start with the hard numbers today and what they tell us. >> this poll that we have tonight is a tale of two republicans with their own set of electability problems. let's start with mitt romney, his electability problem is getting the republican nomination. as you can see, newt gingrich has surged to 40%. that is the highest number any republican has had in the calendar year of 2011, since we've started polling this primary. when the race shrinks down to three candidates, gingrich, romney, paul, gingrich's lead expands. 53% to romney's 31%. what is romney's electability problem? it is simply one word, ideology. 70% of republicans call themselves conservative. 57% believe newt gingrich is one of them. only 29% believe mitt romney is a conservative. that's the reason. newt gingrich has an electability problem, but that is in a general election. mitt romney and barack obama would be a neck and neck race. 47 to 45

you don't know what to expect and it's all been so unpredictable until now. >> peter hart, it's safe to say, we haven't seen this country in this shape before, and we certainly haven't seen the electorate look like this before? >> anger is all around. the thing that most disappoints people in 2011, and that is the declining middle class, the rich are getting richer. >> peter, david, andrea mitchell in washington, thank you all. and one more note from our poll, 75% call this year's congress either below average or one of the worst ever. that's a low in u.s. history. and the battling over taxes on capitol hill grinds on tonight with a stand-off over executing the payroll tax cut. kelly o'donnell is with us from washington. kelly, good evening. >> reporter: i have more of what makes the public so angry. another down to the wire battle. 160 million americans could see their taxes go up in a couple weeks, and the government runs out of money to operate this saturday. both parties thought they had achieved a big bipartisan deem to keep the government running. the president put the brakes o

hart, welcome back. >> my name is ray hart, director of san francisco open government. i can say long time no see but it isn't true because i watch every one of your meetings on sfgtv with great interest. i'd like to read from the sun shine ordinance, the administrative code of san francisco, section 67.1, 67.9, agendas and related materials, public records, subsection a, agendas of meetings and any other documents on file where the clerk of the policy body with intended for distribution for all or majority of all of the members of a policy body in connection with a matter anticipated for discussion or consideration at a public meeting shall be made available to the public. to the extent possible such documents shall be made available to the policy body's internet site. what that basically means is it you go to the sunshine ordinance task force website and look at their agenda, every other one of their agenda items have a little number in front of it and it's in blue and it's a link. and any appropriate documents which are associated with that agenda item, i can sit at

reporting from harts field jackson international, julia renaileds, fox 5 news. >> imagine winning, $77 million. but you don't cash in. well, that is what happened to one person. they probably won't celebrate with champagne but if you do, we will have champagne 101 what you need to know before you head out on new years eve. >> final preparations speaking of new years eve under way in new york for the big bash in times square more details on the theme for this year's crystal ball. 9:25 a.m.  >> look at that guy, the 16- foot croc stole a lawn mower from a worker early wednesday. >> did you hear him yelling let it go. is the croc going to listen to him. >> elvis the croc didn't want to give up his new toy one worker had to lure him to the other side of the enclosure while other pulled the lawn mower from the water and fished for elvis' teeth he lost teeth. >> wouldn't you move them out of the enclosure if you are going to mow the grass. >> tough to get lawn service. >> he fell in love with that lawn mower. >>> well, we had rain for the lawns yesterday today sunshine

this year, it was pastor tim hart andersen's turn, and he delivered an epic. dozens of volunteers came together to stage a 1940s-style radio drama, arranged by "prairie home companion" veteran and church member vern sutton. it's based on a true story the pastor heard from his father when he was growing up. on december 24, 1944, some 2,200 g.i.s boarded the belgian ship "leopoldville" in england, headed to the belgian frontier and the decisive battle of the bulge. >> it just don't feel like christmas eve... >> reporter: hart-andersen's father, hank anderson, was crammed in the ship's hold. >> it was just a miserable situation, so i said, "let's go up on deck and sing christmas carols." i would say there were about 15 to 20 of us there, and we were singing christmas carols and i was leading them. all of a sudden, this is becoming a tender story. and we could see the lights of cherbourgh in the distance. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: not far from the shores of france, disaster struck. some 800 lives were lost in the deadliest incident of the war for the u.s. army. >> all hand

. >> let's bring kim hart from politico into our conversation. >> thank you. you mentioned cyber security. where to you -- what do you think about the direction that cyber security is going and how the private sector should be and baden that discussion? "i think that the big global it is all healthy. it is all-important. this is listed off the pieces -- we are willing to be engaged in any at all of it. we recently were very strong supporters of the mike rogers bill which was one of the first to get moving. we launched did at ncta with him and his team. we think that is critical because the biggest thing -- my view is what you do not know can hurt you. we have the government who has access to all kinds of approbation about cyber threat and the roles of other national government that are not shared with were fully appreciated by industries like our own. his bill were you are able to bring together an ability to share and a permission, as long as you protect the privacy of consumers, we think that is a constructive approach. there are other bills that approach is

this year, it was pastor tim hart andersen's turn, and he delivered an epic. dozens of volunteers came together to stage a 1940s-style radio drama, arranged by "prairie home companion" veteran and church member vern sutton. it's based on a true story the pastor heard from his father when he was growing up. on december 24, 1944, some 2,200 g.i.s boarded the belgian ship "leopoldville" in england, headed to the belgian frontier and the decisive battle of the bulge. >> it just don't feel like christmas eve... >> reporter: hart-andersen's father, hank anderson, was crammed in the ship's hold. >> it was just a miserable situation, so i said, "let's go up on deck and sing christmas carols." i would say there were about 15 to 20 of us there, and we were singing christmas carols and i was leading them. all of a sudden, this is becoming a tender story. and we could see the lights of cherbourgh in the distance. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: not far from the shores of france, disaster struck. some 800 lives were lost in the deadliest incident of the war for the u.s. army. >> all hand

while fighting talk of chelsea captain john terry will lead out the blues at white hart lane to pass to clear his name while luis suarez will appeal after both players are charged with racism. and on the ropes boxing world champion floyd mayweather faces three months in jail for assaulting his ex-girlfriend. but first there's a mouthwatering london dobby this thursday night as chelsea aim to leapfrog in form top them into third spot in a pivotal day but white hart lane the blues are just two points behind spurs in the table harry redknapp said men could go back to within seven points of leaders manchester city and still have a game in hand if they win but despite their second best ever rugby season the tottenham manager reckons it will be a close game. go into the ferry which is a very choice you know between two two good teams and. here we have come a long way for sure you know a few years ago we would be sitting here talking about. you know an even game if you draw between us and show she looks at the moment to be evenly matched. well meanwhile chelsea manager and david ashworth is

ultimately it is and we've seen so many times in the past with john edwards, going back to garry hart and bill clinton of course, that the personal issues can really undo a campaign. it's kind of amazing in many people's eyes that bill clinton managed to survive what he did, speaks to his popularity with the party, but obviously people like gary hart and john edwards, herman cain did not. >> patti ann: you mentioned the 9-9-9 plan, et cetera. the other republican candidates are all weighing in, all of them giving praise to mr. cain, presumably they would paul love to have that endorsement, but newt gingrich saying we have to remember he was the person who had the courage to launch the 9-9-9 plan and raised the general level of discussion. and he was out there, with specifics in the debate trying to talk about issues and his supporters there all morning seem to really be hoping he was going to stay in. how are they reacting in the wake of his announcement? >> you know, and i talked to a woman, patti ann, who came up and said i was there in atlanta and i met new centennial park back in

is work university political science professor gary hart told us earlier that the loss of votes by the ruling party united russia have increased western acceptance of the elections democratic and that elected to do elections. to reshape some of the. elections is an electoral process is simply manipulate it completely and so will the ruling party has lost considerable today does she looks great then it has been expected right western powers sort of image the whole building of course is very important to have an influence international relations and. russia. and dr patrick fuller of capital science connections who has extensive a volved and international business and technology ventures in russia says that whatever changes may result from a new parliament it's vital that russia's drive towards modernization stays on quarles. modernization is really key for the russian economy isn't it as we go forward over the next ten or fifteen years as oil and gas revenues decline you have to ask yourself what what is going to move in to plug the gap so building an economy that's able to capitalize on

maybe gary hart is right. without george mcgovern, the democratic party might have ceased to exist as a viable party. >> then give this one to both of you. will there be another antiwar candidate? in the future, like a mcgovern? >> the thing the differentiated him from other anti-war candidate was in his heart, in his soul. i think he might disagree with barack obama, who said he is not against all wars. george mcgovern was not against all wars either because he fought courageously in one. but i think if he had been elected, he would have gone as elected, he would have gone as out of vietnam as soon as he

with the next step in tv screens, richard hart, abc news. >>> thousands of kids in santa clara county felt the pinch of a bad economy today. an estimated 9,000 needy kids lined up outside the county fairgrounds fwort 5th annual -- the 25th annual party. the problem was there were more kids than toys. >> we have about 3,000 kids in line right now, and we don't know if we have a toy for everyone. >> a lot of people here lost their jobs. that's why they are here and the turnout is so great. when the need is greatest, people are least able to respond. >> even without toys there was lots of food, games and face painting to celebrate the holiday. >>> the u.s. marines and the raider nation helped a lot of kids in need. members of the marine corp accepted toys for the toys for tots program. the raiders host eddie trite. -- hosted detroit. some brought toys and others brought cash so santa can do some shopping for under privileged kids. >>> meteorologist leigh glaser is here and she said it will be a dry week. >> it certainly is. we may get through the storm door in about 10 days. we'll keep o

widely recognized as the greenest city in the world and it's right in silicon valley which is the hart of starting companies and we want to work to make san francisco the center of gravity for clean energy companies. that translates to making a difference in the world. it translates to job creation and economic activity. we want to do that all right here. there's four companies in first program. we're super excited that they're here. we're joking that it's harder to get into greenstart than into stanford or harvard. we had 130 applications and through a rigorous process, we narrowed it down to four. we're going to invite them up to say a few words. this formally kicks off today. it's a 12-week program. it's going to be high intensity and keep an eye out for these companies because they're going to be out there changing the world. thanks for being here, guys. [cheers and applause] >> thank you, mitch. and now i've got the great honor to introduce mayor lee, whose commitment to clean tech and jobs to san francisco. it's a testament that you're here. welcome. mayor lee: welcome, tim. than

we worked it one time and it work and he had the discipline not to use it again against gary hart.e worked. one moment. a moment for that. on the trail for 20 years. >> greg: gary hart said where is the beef and then said where is the rice? >> kimberly: oh, boy. i like that. >> eric: very good. if they do this debate, i certainly offer my services, sarah palin, to moderate that. >> kimberly: sarah palin? >> eric: to moderate that one-on-one. >> bob: eric's wife is listening. >> dana: why are you wearing a tie? >> bob: they made you. i said i'm not coming on without you in a tie. >> eric: can we tease? fort lauderdale has a way to fix the homeless problem. check it out, bob. you'll be happy about it. that's next on "the five." ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> bob: it's greg's favorite song. i'm happy to have that. >> greg: tearing my eyeballs out. >> bob: yes, it does. i'm going to make my introduction here shorter than greg's opening. the reason for it, a sad story. in fort lauderdale, florida, the county council decided have funds to send homeless people back to their loved ones if they want to go, one

we worked it one time and it work and he had the discipline not to use it again against gary hart. have worked. one moment. a moment for that. on the trail for 20 years. >> greg: gary hart said where is the beef and then said where is the rice? >> kimberly: oh, boy. i like that. >> eric: very good. if they do this debate, i certainly offer my services, sarah palin, to moderate that. >> kimberly: sarah palin? >> eric: to moderate that one-on-one. >> bob: eric's wife is listening. >> dana: why are you wearing a tie? >> bob: they made you. i said i'm not coming on without you in a tie. >> eric: can we tease? fort lauderdale has a way to fix the homeless problem. check it out, bob. you'll be happy about it. that's next on "the five." ♪ ♪ >> announcer: if you think identity theft is scary, just wait until you try to fix it. >> 58 different individuals are using... absolutely, using my old social security number. >> announcer: identity theft has topped the federal government's list of consumer complaints for the last eleven years. it's a serious problem with anyone with a social security

richard hart reports on the drive to discover a screen that touches you back. >> the smartphone or a tablet computer or a large screen tv we expect all of those devices to have touch interfaces. >> but david rice's tablet touches him back. >> each time i touch it i feel the sensation. >> you can feel the i con is -- i cons you push. in this demonstration, asphalt feels rough. you feel nothing up and down on this, but it feels rigid sideways. this doesn't feel like the sand paper that it looks like, but it is finer than the asphalt. it is nothing new in dashboards and appliances, but so far you need to plug them into a wall or drain batteries like crazy because they create the sensation with physical vibration. >> they vibrate the entire device or the entire screen. ours is done using electro electrostatic machine. >> it is not reading the tablet. >> it was laid out and the glass so thin is individualable -- invisible. making it practical for the mobile devices. it will need to be incorporated by the manufacturers. still there is not a reason they will have touch back capability, some

maybe gary hart is right. without george mcgovern, the democratic party might have ceased to exist as a viable party. >> then give this one to both of you. will there be another antiwar candidate? in the future, like a mcgovern? >> the thing the differentiated him from other anti work candidates was in his heart, was in his soul -- anti-war candidate was in his heart, in his soul. i think he might disagree with barack obama, who said he is not against all wars. george mcgovern was not against all wars either because he fought courageously in one. but i think if he had been elected, he would have gone as out of vietnam as soon as he could. it certainly would have been a lot sooner than nixon did, with the country's tail between its legs. >> scott farris, quickly. >> i do not believe anyone will ever run as an anti-war candidate exactly the way he did. he showed what a presidential candidate can and cannot say about a war when america is involved in it. people were very unsettled when he was so uncompromising an

caller slogan for the pro harte -- our slogan for the pearl harbor survivors association is remember pearl harbor, keep america aware. >> many survivors are in their late-80's, and 90's. it could be the last time they visit. there will be events all day long to commemorate the anniversary. the main ceremony gets under way at 7:45 local time. >> we will strain the ceremony live on our web site. you can find the link on our homepage. >> it appears the syracuse assistant coach accused of sexual assault will not face sex -- charges for now. the charges cannot be brought against bernie fine because the statute of limitations had run out, but the two men are credible, and the cases on going. in the face of more budget cuts, fire union leaders are encouraging residents to reject to officials to stop rotating fire house closures that began three years ago and defect 3 firehouses a day. firefighters say it makes it difficult for them to ensure public safety. >> their preliminary numbers are -- there could be up to five or eight more cuts. we have to take the offensive. we have to get the word

they lose a hart breaker, 28-27 falling to 7-7. >> very frustrating. thought the guys played hard but obviously didn't play well enough. >> it was all set up for us to get it done but that is disappointing part. >> we didn't do it enough to get it done. we didn't get the big plays when we needed them. >> tom brady took care of denver. braid si to o cinch cinch. >> and brady accounts for three tds and beat the broncos. denver is a game ahead of the raiders in the a.f.c. west. >> upset of the day, rogers and the pack, chiefs had other ideas. to pack rally. rodgers a pedestrian, 235 yards and a td pass. he runs this one in. pack down 35. two minutes left. they go for the on-side kick. green bay's win streak is over, fall to last place chiefs, 19-14 your final. >> perfect team lose colts hosting the titans. run in the backfield and he is gone. 80 yards, colts first win without peyton manning without jim harbaugh as the coach. >> now the steelers in the playoffs they might need resolution ben roethlisberger who has an ankle sprain. last time they met. my st

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if we can get them 10 minutes of education, on american history. >> that was fox's eyewitnessly air hart. president obama named december 7th national pearl harbor remembrance day. >> a pearl harbor whelm region planned at the world war ii memorial in washington had to be cancelled because of the weather. the rain didn't stop a special ceremony on pennsylvania avenue northwest. take a look. [ playing "taps" ] the u.s. navy band and ceremonial guard took part in the wreath-laying ceremony. pearl harbor vets were there to share their story. >>> survivors and veterans gathered in hawaii for an event at the pearl harbor visitor center. they looked directly out to the uss arizona memorial, sitting a half mile away in pale harbor. everyone in the -- in pearl harbor. everyone in the crowd boyed their heads at 7:55 a.m. local time, the exact time the bombing began 70 years ago. >> emotional testimony from the victim's father and a hearing on homegrown terrorism. a joint session of the senate and house homeland security committee looked for the attacks on the armed forces in the united states. the

can't believe it, i turned to the democrats, specifically south carolina democratic chair dick hard hart footlyian,. i asked him if he would challenge the ruling. joining us now to do our super pac's bidding, please welcome south carolina democratic chairman dick harpootlian. dick, thanks for coming on. good to see you. all right, dick, now, i have not seen you since 2008. all right. i tried to run for president in south carolina, and you're one of the guys who got me kicked off the democratic ballot. [audience booing] yeah, yeah. now why on earth four years later would you be helping me? does it have anything to do with the fact that i have unlimited cash? >> stephen, that probably is the only factor that would affect us here. >> >> stephen: it seems to make a difference in south carolina. >> it is the difference. >> stephen: this referendum about corporate personhood got kicked off the ballot. we're trying to challenge that ruling. we're trying to get these referendums put back on the ballot so the people of south carolina can decide whether corporations are people or whether people ar

suzanne hart stepped inside the elevator when it suddenly shot up, crushing her above.y it is possible a sensor failed, allowing the elevator to move, even though hart was not fully inside. the building received four unsatisfactory ratings in the last year. >>> brea hunter was a freshman clarinet player, when she joined the red dog order, an unsanctioned group within the band made up from students from georgia. shortly after, she says she suffered a fractured thigh bone from an alleged hazing incident. >> well, they went around the room. and they asked people, did you want to be part of this organization? but first, they were like, everybody will -- not everybody would. a good few people got hit. >> police arrested and charged three famu students in connection with the incident. hunter plans to sue the school. >>> a college fraternity at the university of vermont is coming under fire for a survey that appears to promote violence against women. sigma phi epsilon handed out the surveys which asked who they would rape if they could. sigma phi epsilon is suspending this, pe

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in 1984, gary hart finished second place with 17%. walter mondale had 50%. the momentum somehow because he was only supposed to get 9% instead. seems a big failure for mondaleç candidates really have to watch how they manage expectations. you have voters behaving tactically. if rick santorum looks like he can wins a lot of people think of him favorably in iowa. if he's not viable, they might vote for a gingrich, perry or bachmann instead. voters are smarter than a lot of campaigns give them credit for, where they want to make sure their vote counts. the calculation can change day-to-day and be effected by the polls. >> the point you made there is so key to understanding the viability of ron paul. because if the republican establishment including all of the other candidates never see ron paul as viable, they will never go negative on ron paul. if they never go negative on ron paul, voters who are not part of the establishment, because they're just voters, may never see the downside of ron paul that the establishment assumes everybody knows. and he may be able

i don't think it's going to be fast enough, but if it gets in there, remember in 1984, when gary hart's what rick santorum is hoping for. >> michelle, why hasn't december we've seen everybody go through these boom/bust cycles you but rick santorum. if he comes in sect or third, that may be what we're talking about. does he have it in him to do that? >> well, you know yesterday's "the washington post" had a fascinating analysis of what's happening in iowa. people said to you, for example, i liked rick perry until i saw him in the debate. i liked newt gingrich until i was reminded about his ethics violation, i like michele bachmann, but her voice gets on my nerve. i'm going with the conservative, and that's rick santorum. i think this is his time to shine, at least in iowa. >> we'll see. >> those voters are looking for one like rick santorum. >> shameless plugs, mike. >> i was just driving by chris hitchens' apartment on columbia road, there's still flowers and johnny walker red. read his book, argue reply, it's out there. >> my wife, who does a better job for christmas each year. thank

hart was religion. a beautiful -- art was religion. explaining how he finally came to appreciate the gift. >> he wanted -- when he was young, his father was a pastor. he desperately wanted to bring the kind of the -- he would follow his father out when he was helping poor people in the dutch countryside. the level of consolation and appreciation that those people had for what his father did, he said, to lead had a wife liked -- life like paul's. he could not stay in school long enough to become a creature. you had to have a lot of academic education. >> he also was not good with people. >> he had a lot of difficulties with people. tavis: difficulty being around people. >> he could not interact with them. there was a group of people would then the dutch protestant community who had these ideas. artiststs could see into the beauty ofinate ure a w that s.stheernim s.stm that is what he did. when you finally decided he could not be a minister, he decided he would use his art. tavis: you all right in such a way that i could never accept it.

we are back with jonathan cape hart and julian epstein. let's continue with you. a win for the president, no doubt about that. but this is a two-month extension. does the president get any momentum or does the fight pick up where it left off? >> he clearly won this fight. with adversaries like these, democrats hardly need political friends. these house republicans are like dr. evil's guards. for the last two weeks, every single analyst has been saying that they would lose this political battle to hold up the payroll tax cut. i think the real story here is that boehner who even early this week when we knew this was a political losing argument for the republicans didn't have the political courage to step in and tell them that they should take the senate deal voted overwhelmingly. the cowardess of john baner who couldn't tell his own party to do the right thing and had to wait for the senate republicans to say the inmates are in charge before he made a move. the question is whether he keeps his job next year. >> does he? >> i don't know. i would be very surprised if

jonathan cape hart and here in new york, steven jenkins, singer of the band third eye blind who wrotel street. msnbc contributor and strategist crystal ball. even though we have a rock star, i regard you as the rock star. poor mitt. he stays in the race and can't get any love. do you think it's possible that they could be overtaken by the adult resz non-lobbyist newt gingrich. >> sheer overtaken. i doe. if you look at the polls in florida, newt gingrich is beating him by 30 points. the gingrich surge is different than the other flavors of the week of the the other ones, they came out and said we love them and maybe not so much. gingrich was the reverse. they said what's going on? he built momentum and he is the front-runner. >> you than romney is stuck at a plateau and newt's favorability grows even as romney's decline. mitt is on the cover of timeç magazine asking the question, why don't they like me. it's sad, isn't it? >> it's really sad. poor mitt romney who has been running for president for a long time. he has run a good campaign. steady eddie and leading them fight amongst the