washington, twice, with the french commander in america, met with him in hartford, in september of 1780, and at whethersfield, conn. in may of 1781. in both of those meetings, he asked washington, what do you want to do? both instances, washington said i want to campaign to take new york city. and he argued with washington, we can't succeed, we cannot succeed in an attack on new york city. the british have held it too long. they have had 6 years to prepare their defense, we cannot win. but he had been ordered by louis xvi, they fer to washington, do what he wants. so after that conference, at the weathers field conference, he agreed we will attack new york. washington rode back to west point, thinking that would be the next item on the agenda, but as soon as washington rode back, rode away, wroteshallow root to the admiral of the french fleet in the caribbean asking him to bring his fleet north, not to new york, as washington expected, but to the chesapeake, because rauchambeau saw the possibility of trapping it. and that is exactly what happened. one last thing, there has been a debate

>> i have background from the bernie school in hartford and worked in outside business and department government and came in the fish and wildlife service in 1990. and started in d.c., and this project came along, and i was able to jump along at the very start of it. i was on the planning team, did a lot of the operational planning as well. and was privileged enough to watch this place rise from an old farm from west virginia to probably one of the greatest conservation training locations on the planet. >> there are a lot of archives in this country. and this one is devoted to fish and wildlife. how important are they to a historian as research? >> this is ground zero for anyone that wants to deal with the issues of wildlife protection. in the wild maps is how wild america got saved. you can look at the old documents called the surveys that became the fish and wildlife. and you can track species, if you wanted to learn about gray wolves, this is a place to come and find out how the protection movement got underfoot. >> one of the people that you write about in your book is john burrow

host: the decision yesterday was off5-4 by the supreme court on the hartford fire fighters. it was 5-4. sonia sotomayor's decision was overturned. she is the supreme court nominee whose confirmation hearing begins july 13. this is the headline from the home town newspaper. a slim majority finds the bias -- pictured on the front page are some of those firefighters who brought the lawsuit up. it was a decision yesterday by justice kennedy, writing for the majority. new jersey, on the phone. caller: great show, guys. what i am disturbed is about all these naysayers calling and talking about the iraq war. no matter where you are or what country you live in, everybody wants to be free. i think what happened over there, we did for those people from what was going on. there is going to be democracy there, but you know what really stuns me about a lot of american people? the forget about what the soviet union tried to do to the world during the cold war with communist domination of the world. it is a terrible thing, but sometimes you have to go and fight. sometimes it turns up good,

our last call is from philip, hartford, conn. caller: good morning. i'm glad i got through. just quickly, i know you are going off the air. host: i will put you on hold for a minute -- we are getting feedback. we will come back to you. one comment -- if it wasn't for the colonel and me and others like us, the loudmouths' who hate america would not have the freedom to spew their hate. guest: i was privileged when i was at west point to have been with them -- talk with a man who had been in vietnam. talking about jane fonda -- asked him about it, and he said i profoundly disagree with what jane fonda did. i would get wounded again to give her the right to do it. the rights to disagree, to express one's opinions, whether in form or correct or not is a wonderful ride that many americans have given their lives for and fought for. i am proud to have contributed in some way to preserving america's freedom and americans right to disagree. host: philip, we will come back to you. if the volume is down. caller: police officers become policemen, and it is their responsibility to serve.

my friend joe lieberman was here and i was had hartford the night that he lost his primary because i wanted to be with him because he was my friend and he's given so much to this country and, thank god, he was able to win that election and come back to t the u.s. senate. but i learned that lesson from steny hoyer. those who know me best know that i'm not one to shy away from a fig fight. ginger says i'm downright combative. lord knows i'm a democrat. i have never voted for a republican in my life and i probably never will. but i'm disgusted with the polarization and incivility that has come to define our politics and i deeply believe that the daunting challenges that president obama faces and america faces today require a transformation transformational post-partisan solutions that one party alone cannot produce. history has shown time after time the transformational reforms most often come with bipartisan support. social security. the g.i. became. the civil rights act. reforms that fundamentally transformed american life all passed congress with huge majorities of members of both pa

. >> the hartford, current in the financial disclosure's section talks about senator chris dodd and the piece is call dad's major adjustment. a priced value of the senator's cottage in ireland more than triples. concludes it's worth three times as much as dad has been reporting. the new value on the island in the county is about $658 thousand dollars according to two financial disclosure forms. the two page appraisal was done guy same man that did it in 2002 when it was valued at $190 thousand. timber pines florida? >> the article you just referred so was one of the two questions i was going to call in and say something about. the first was, that um... the president and supreme court has to put their stocks in a blind trust. why don't the congressmen have to do that? secondly, term limits. how come my mayor has term limits and governor and my president have terms limits but the congressmen don't? let you reply. >> albuquerque key, new mexico. >> hi. there. with regard to education, one of the real problems is the fact that most - in most of the states, most of the teachers in thek pse&g

koh published a commentary in the hartford current on october 20, 2002, entitled "a better way to deal with iraq." here's just an excerpt from that article -- and i quote -- "i believe that terrorism poses a grave threat to international peace and security. i lost friends on september 11 and have shared in the grief of their families. i believe that saddam hussein saddam hussein is an aoefpl and dangerous man who daily abuses his own people and who wishes no good for our country or the world. i fear his weapons of mass destruction and believe they should be eliminated. yet, i believe just as strongly that it would be a mistake for our country to attack iraq without explicit united nations authorization. i believe such an attack would violate international law." we need to think for a minute and digest what this means. even though mr. koh believed that attacking iraq would be in the best interest of america and the world, he believed that we should wait on explicit directions from the united nations before we act. both this commentary and his testimony before the senate foreign relation

>> i have a masters in public administration from the barney school in hartford and worked on a lot of different jobs in environmental education, the outdoor business, and public government. and came in to the fish & wildlife service as presidential management intern in 1990. and started in d.c. and then this project came along and i was able to jump in right at the very start of it. i was on the plane and did a lot of the operational planning as well and was privileged enough to be able to watch this place rise from an old farm in west virginia to probably one of the greatest conservation training locations on the planet. >> there are a lot of archives and this one is devoted to fish & wildlife. >> this is ground zero for anybody wanting to deal with the issues of wildlife protection. because in these file cabinets here, in the samples that they have, the tax dermy here, the maps, this is how wild america got saved so you can look at the old documents, what's called a biological survey, which later became u.s. fish & wildlife. you track all over the country all different kinds of spec