or if david hartley was working with the cartel.peculation began to swirl that tiffany hartley killed her husband for the insurance money, or even that she was seeing another man. >> people still have a hard time believing you. does that hurt you? >> some days. other days they don't have room to judge. i mean, they don't know me. they don't know my husband. they were not there that day. so really, they have no room to judge me. >> with television and newspaper attention still at viral levels, authorities in texas were trapped. they could dispatch all the boats and helicopters they wanted, but law enforcement in mexico was still in charge. and what happened next in mexico showed just how difficult getting any answers would be. >> one mexican detective did try to find out what happened to david hartley. but his head was severed from his body. and his decapitated head was delivered to the mexican army here in a border town. >> his name? rolando villegas. his brothers who lived near the church in old mexico. old guerrero, it is unclear

tiffany and david hartley learned firsthand. mexican police were not to be trusted. >> for one instance he was coming home from the bank after cashing our rent check and police pulled him over, followed him from the bank and pulled him over. had him step out and punched him in the face and stole his money. >> reporter: david, she says, saw someone get shot on the street. did you sense it was getting more dangerous? >> you could. yeah. you could sense it. you'd hear more about it. >> reporter: what did they look like? describe how you would pick out a cartel member? >> there trucks at that time had their name. the cdt or the z for the zetas. they had actually marked their vehicles with their name and who they were. >> david convinced his company to allow him at least to live on the american side of the border in mccallon. soon afterwards, the company told david he was being offered another transfer, back home to colorado. to his mom that was a blessing. . >> they were going to be home that next week looking for a house to move in

or if david hartley was working with the cartel.swirl that tiffany hartley killed her husband for the insurance money, or even that she was seeing another man. >> people still have a hard time believing you. does that hurt you? >> some days. other days they don't have room to judge. i mean, they don't know me. they don't know my husband. they were not there that day. so really, they have no room to judge me. >> with television and newspaper attention still at viral levels, authorities in texas were trapped. they could dispatch all the boats and helicopters they wanted, but law enforcement in mexico was still in charge. and what happened next in mexico showed just how difficult getting any answers would be. >> one mexican detective did try to find out what happened to david hartley. but his head was severed from his body. and his decapitated head was delivered to the mexican army here in a border town. >> his name? rolando villegas. his brothers who lived near the church in old mexico. old guerrero, it is unclear if he went looking f

hartley was seeing another man.time believing you. does that hurt you? >> some days. other days -- they don't have room to judge. i mean, they don't know me. they don't know my husband. they weren't there that day. so really they have no room to judge me. >> with television and newspaper attention still at viral levels, authorities of texas were trapped. they could dispatch all the boats and helicopters they wanted, but law enforcement in mexico was still in charge. and what happened next in mexico showed just how difficult getting any answers would be. >> one mexican detective did try to find out what happened to david hartley. but his head was severed from his body and his decapitated head delivered to the mexican army here in a border town. his name, viegas. his suspects, brothers who lived near the half submerged church in mexico. old guerrero. it's unclear if he went looking for them, but only a few days after he identified the brothers by name, the detective was dead. a clear warning for any law enforcement no

and if you don't represent me i can sue you and that's the situation as a consequence of the taft hartley law this is the situation that unions in right to work for less states find themselves in they are required under the wagner act the nine hundred thirty five national labor relations act unions are required to provide legal services to anybody who's in that shop and yet in a right to work for less state under the taft hartley one hundred forty seven act the the individuals who are getting those benefits can refuse to pay for that and can say on a company you know you do this and this actually happens a lot and one of the union busting techniques that's used is to plant people in employee in workplaces and have them demand lots and lots and lots of services very expensive services from the unions to the unions that they have lots of lawyers on staff constantly and they get no revenue for it so isn't doesn't this this case in indiana this before judge johnson dhea lake superior court he said this is a violation of the of the you have to pay somebody if you're going to if you're going to

down the stretch for an undefeated season and made a kicking change late where they brought garrett hartley in to kick late in the season and that helped take them to a national championship game appearance. they had gone the whole season. he was like, i know i was trying to red-shirt him but this is too important and we need to win now. so they put him out there. >> gus: it looks like oklahoma will go on to win this game, but tomorrow it all begins. quarterback situation. offensive philosophy questions. offense played extremely well, giving up only seven points. >> charles: that is two straight weeks. >> gus: will blake bell get the start next week against tulsa? >> charles: these are the downtown quarterback discussions that will be going on too. >> gus: hunnicutt. this one is off the upright! he missed it. so with a minute to go, oklahoma with 16-7 lead. west virginia buzzing on their sideline now. mountaineers out of time-outs. >> charles: just pulled it too far and the upright denies it. really shouldn't be a significant miss with 1:00 left on the clock because of what west virginia wo

. >> what about the -- [overlapping speakers] >> the style of -- >> what about the taft hartley planthat union members have that are not eligible for obama care subsidies but are taxed at other plans are. >> the cadillac tax. >> that's the taft hartley plan. the cadillac tax this 40% tax. therer numerous concerns, not just a shift from fulltime to parttime but theirer into pricing that because that is something that american people across the board have a problem with. that's something we're already seeing manifested in the fast-food industry where you see tons of fulltime workers shifted, and a lot of companies are saying, hold on a second, we need to save some money somehow. if we're going to be mandated to cover costs, these costs for these people, -- not you and not i and not 99% of the people watching the show are effected -- >> are you telling the undowns, be quiet. >> i'm not -- i was never a fan of the employer mandate to begin with but i'm telling the unions their employees and members are going to be better off under this healthcare plan. and they're elements of the healthc

and if you don't represent me i can sue you and that's the situation as a consequence of the taft hartley law this is the situation that unions in right to work for less states find themselves in they are required under the wagner act the one hundred thirty five national labor relations act unions are required to provide legal services to anybody who's in that shop and yet in a right to work for less state under the hartley one hundred forty seven act the the individuals who are getting those benefits can refuse to pay for that and can say on a company you know in dues and this actually happens a lot and one of the union busting techniques that's used is to plant people in employee in workplaces and have them demand lots and lots and lots of services very expensive services from the unions to the unions that they have lots of lawyers on staff constantly and they get no revenue for it so isn't doesn't this this case in indiana this before judge johnson dhea lake superior court he said this is a violation of the of the you have to pay somebody if you're you know if you're going to demand wo

to do it for this edition of the kaiser and for me i mean really taking the charts up elements of hartley so i'm going to use a prop and that's going to do it for this edition of the kaiser a four hour with me max geyser and stacey lambert i want to thank my guests leave him if you want to send us a tweet do so it's got to clutter and find us on cars a report i want to thank stacy herbert and select time to select either saying bio . or london. the whole world is. the true hero of the original one the one on the end there are further to the point that believe at the end of the street another one the more transparent society gets the money or the pump the tears become we see military and state police forces mobilized against people who blend into the city but the city the more people trust electronic devices the more defenseless the. fear that it is a thousand on. our r t. m l. policies. a pleasure to have you with us here on t.v. today i'm sure. more news today violence is once again flared up. in these are the images killed world has been seeing from the streets of canada. trying to corp

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to do it for this edition of the kaiser and for me i mean really taking the current top comment to hartley so i'm going to use a prof then that's going to do it for this edition of the kaiser and for with me max kaiser and stacy herbert i want to thank my guests leave him if you want to send us a tweet do so as go to twitter and find the time because the report i want to thank stacy herbert. intellect i was elected saying by all. cross talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want. the fact that. they were going to do the job that you know the price is the only industry specifically mentioned in the constitution and. that's because a free and open press is critical to our democracy track all those. rule. in fact the single biggest threat facing our nation today is the corporate takeover of our government and our press several we've been hijacked lying handful of transnational corporations that will profit by destroying what our founding fathers once it's all just my job market and on this show we reveal the big picture of what's actually going on in the world we go beyon

the law also states that union provided insurance known as taft-hartley multiemployer health plans is, is government-approved health care coverage. subsequently, union employees enrolled in these taft-hartley plans are not eligible for the exchanges and the refundable tax credits available in the exchange. obviously the unions are not happy about that. on august 27, in 2013, the trade public education inside health policy reported "the office of management and budget showed on its web site that on august 24 it received a department of labor proposed rule on health insurance premium assistance, trust supporting the purchase of certain individual health insurance policies. the rule which o.m.b. said is patient protection in affordable care act related appears to deal with the exclusion from a definition of an employee welfare benefit plan but this week the description disappeared" -- end quote. the unions are clearly seeking a way around the law and want a special fix that would apply to them and them only. if they have their own way, mr. president, what will happen is that union member

they're going to lose the old taft hartley labor management subsidy. that is incredibly important, secondly, the unions have added some subsidies on their own. nobody co-pays anymore or never any co-pay. that's the thing. they're all going to have to go into the exchanges. they all have to pay much more and they don't like that one bit. that's my understanding. >> you know, union leaders have never been known for their business prowess because the only thing they're good at is spending other people's money. we were warning about this kind of problem with the president's health care bins bill well before it was passed. i think frankly representative pelosi is eating her words about having to pass the bill to see what's in it. the union should have seen this coming. it's shocking that they didn't. the difficulty here is that they're pushing for what they call a fix, a technical fix. according to the congressional research service this problem cannot be solved without having the bill redebated on the floor of congress, passed through both chambers and sen

normal to be overprotective with younger females, but it was to the point that it was excessive, and i hartleys a teenager, i'd say tiffs i hated the world. i really, really was angry, kind of hated everybody, hated my parents. >> you've got to be heart on kids sometimes, otherwise they're going to go astrayed. >> if you did any little thing wrong, it was a putdown. you weren't good enough. >> i was home-schooled off and on throughout my life. in ninth great after my first day in high school, i just dropped out completely. i couldn't handle it. my anxiety was in full gear. >> she was from a child being taken away from social settings. she's not able to be comfortable with people, and basically is just afraid of the world. >> i was told that i wouldn't get a teaching position come the fall, because there was a teaching freeze given the economy. i really just got fed up. i moved to san diego on a whim. that's where i met peter. >> the first year of severen's life, debby had postpartum depression. she was sleeping most of the day and not taking care of him. >> she couldn't handle the pressure wit

for example, the taft-hartley plans, the private sector unions where they provide their own health insurance they do not get the kind of tax breaks that the profit-making plans get. those kinds of issues have to be discussed. but these are issues that can be worked out and these are issues that can be dealt with. again, we support obama care 100%. we think that it's a good thing to provide young people 26 years of age, they can still have health insurance provided by their families. it helps seniors. it's going to lower the costs. you look at the past four years. based upon obama care and the implementation, costs -- health care costs are actually going down, so we think it's a good thing and we'll continue to support it. >> another ongoing question for afsme is in detroit. you were at the white house and talked about the bankruptcy crisis there. administration officials are heading to detroit to meet with the governor and the mayor friday, and i think this is the first in a series of meetings. they're trying to make sure that federal resources are being made available. but how convinced are

but if you take the 20 million employees who are in taft heartihear hartley plans and assume half of them were to get a full subsidy, you're talking about -- the congress isn't going to agree to add a half trillion dollars to the already extremely high cost of obama care. >> this is a scare tactic. the fact of the matter is obama care -- >> it's not a scare tactic. it's math. >> it's going to reduce costs for both of them. >> it hasn't reduced costs for anybody. >> you have companies like ibm, u.p.s. -- >> there are going to be problems. it ain't perfect. it's a step towards a health care system that covers every american and reduces costs. >> how dangerous is it, though, for the unions to be biting the hand that feeds them in some sense? criticizing the president and the administration for the health care law they once supported? you've noticed, i mean, unions ain't the most popular group in political circles these days. it's certainly losing support in some political circles. >> i spent 25 years negotiating with business and labor and people like that. i don't expect them to be gra

united states by pick up a piece of that absolute and and hopefully one of these days get rid of taft hartley there you go all right thanks a lot for being there to have you with all. coming up president obama is scheduled to address the nation from the white house tomorrow night and to drum up support from americans for military action in syria leave better off using that time to address the issues that really matter to americans more on that infamous daily tick . ok. dave across it welcome you to ted you're all of virginia it's a little while in the middle of the chesapeake bay on the virginia. county. rampage here all in the chesapeake bay probably one of the best areas in the phone call fred. this is an old picture of ten year island before the channel was. here. up there. as go all. right here are some of the headstones from graves it for you this is a fruit that's what we don't want happen to taint your oh and we want to get some protection and make sure that we don't go into the chesapeake bay like uppers did in other communities. so sometimes you know what you know and sometimes you k

look at is the way the subsidies are provided for example if you're in a non for profit like a taft hartley plan and your medicare costs are your fordable care health care costs are up you're going to get taxed for that and what the congress doesn't understand is there's a difference between expensive health care. and so the sort of cadillac health care there is no cadillac health care that we negotiate but it's expensive in some places it depends on who's the provider there's no exchange so in some cases for the same health care you're paid twenty thousand dollars per family per year in another state you'll pay fifteen thousand dollars per family per year it depends on where you are and what the market says when the exchanges come in that will be. fix that so those are things that we're good we think we have to look at over time so these are these are incremental changes mental to me it is and. you just been appointed to president obama's advanced manufacturing partnership steering committee two point zero for to put you know everything needs a point something the yeah i guess can you tell

hartley, andette this is "wild about animals." show, we head to hawaii. maui's top resorts. that might have something to do with nearly a million fees that call a resort rooftop home. >> we are going to go out and be friendly. hopefully, we will develop a mutual unders landing while we harvest -- understanding while we harvest their honey. >> then, we all know about trash pickups that happen on land. how about underwater? >> our model is to start small first here and then maybe grow in other areas. quite later, -- >> later, how did the island of cool i become so well-known for chickens? >> nobody touches them. >> finally, we spend some time with a few local hawaiian green features. >> last year, we released our two-year-olds. little over 30 pounds. >> you will the all of that and more on "wild about animals." animals." "wild about the island of maui has a number of rest taking oceanfront resorts. i, they evend wale have a few occupants on the rooftop, occupants who specialize in making honey. people know maui for tropical breezes, butool there is somethin

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that's a violation of section 302 of the taft-hartley act.in this particular case, the employer decided not execute the contract and the union sued them in state court for executing this contract, saying these things are extremely valuable to them. it has a potential major impact on how unions organize. they may have to go back out to convince workers to vote for them behind the ballot as opposed organizing an campaign against the employer and getting employer to agree to accept them without a secret ballot vote. host: when is that hearing set for? guest: that will be set for november 15. host: thomas is up on the democrats line. caller: i want to make a comment. i've lived in two different right to work states, kansas and north carolina. in a few months, i will be moving to a democratically controlled state. i worked for a company called -- scientific corporation. about seven or eight years ago there was about 250 employees at that company that trying to get the union in there. now, once the company -- host: caller, you're breaking up a litt

some of them have taft-hartley plans, some have trust fund plans, some have multistate plans and they need provisions made in the obamacare law to deal with their specific circumstances. under the ordinary course of legislative and congressional business, over the last three years, we would have addressed these anomalies in the obamacare program. sadly, we can't get anyone to come to the table from your political party. 42 or 43 times the house republicans have voted to abolish obamacare. not once have they proposed sitting down to work out any differences, work out any problemsing within lawsuit. i'm prepared to do that. i've told the labor unions, including mr. hoffa, the same. i know the administration feels the same. but, unfortunately, those who are opposed to this plan want it to descend into chaos. they want as much confusion, as many problems as possible. they don't want to work to cover the 50 million uninsured in america. what you just described and said you could sign up for frankly is obamacare. we are talking about a marketplace. do you know how many companies will be off

these nonprofit plans are governed jointly by unions and companies under the taft heartily -- taft-hartley act. our health plans have been built for decades by men and women. as demonstrated by this legislation, our employees will be treated differently and not afforded subsidies afforded other citizens. as such, many employees will be relegated to second-class status and shut out of the help offered to buy for-profit insurance plans. and secondly, even though nonprofit plans like ours won't seem the same subsidies as for-profit plans, they will be taxed to pay for these subsidies. taken together, these restrictions will make nonprofit plans like ours unsustainable and will undermine the health care market of viable alternatives to the big health insurance companies. on behalf of the millions of working men and women we represent." mr. president, i would say -- note he didn't say on behalf of the hundreds, on behalf of the thousands. he said, "on behalf of the millions of the working men and women we represent and the families they support, we can no longer stand silent in the face of elem