>> commissioners ray hartz, director of san francisco, open government, and i wholeheartedly support the approval of these minutes and it documents the efforts of both the commissioners and the commissioners to openly and honestly discuss my case before this commission. and i would like to point out on page 6 of the document where the commissioner keane expressed that the library was discriminate and went on in the last sentences is important, mr. herrra, stated that the members of the public are not prohibited to make the public comment, but that they are denied the ability to make the public comment on a equal footing for those who are invited, and those that are approved by the library, and the information that the library wants the public to have, and they simply want to deny the opportunity for people to use the overhead, when they disagree, which is a violation of the brown act, and it documents as a matter of public record, the pattern of deceit, used by the city librarian and it documents the willful ignorance, by commissioners renne and hayon. he is the head of the library a

hartz. >> it was e-mailed on march...t. >> is there a motion to adjourn the meeting? >> so moved. >> second. >> yeah. we need the public comment on that. >> public comment on the motion to adjourn. >> no. >> okay. all in favor? >> aye. >> opposed? >> none, the meeting is adjourned. >> good morning. welcome i'm with the city's office of economic workforce development well, we're incredibly excited to celebrate this land. i've been working think this project since 1999 thank goodness what we didn't know it was going to take so long we're incredibly excited as my career as a planner this is one of the most exist projects to see happening 17 hundred units ever housing in this beautiful neighborhood without further ado, i'm going to introduce mayor ed lee to start us off (clapping.) thank you, ken. welcome as ken said to our visitacion valley neighborhood i must say we wanted you to come down her to take a before a real big mounds of dirt start moving i think everybody should appreciate this and for a number of years 15 years is around is times when a company closed and wh

. >> ray hartz, director of san francisco open government, just a little catch up here, i was in march visiting my family and left on march 5, and returned on march 25th and you can manl my surprise when i came back and i found out that you had schedule a hearinging regarding a matter to which i was a party on the fifth after i was on the east coast and held the hearing the day before i returned on the 25th. what a coincidence. what a coincidence. but i will talk about that a middle bit more later. on march 24th, this commission held a hearing on a case to when i was a party i think that you can imagine my reaction when on march 26th i first became aware of the series of events. on further consideration, i realized that i was altogether pleased that this occurred. it allowed the other party to the case to the lie braeer an to do what he does so exsisitly lie through his teeth, commissioner andrews raised the question as to if he looked at away to comply without spending $40,000 and allow me to use the visual equipment at the public library and a short answer and he did not have to and

hartz or mr. pilpal? >> i have some for mr. pilpal. >> you have mentioned briefly that there is no, and that it would have been a violation to do a balancing test under 6255 a? >> yes. >> why do you say that? >> 67.24 g specifically says and you have this in your memo and in the law that neither the city or any office or employee may assert 6255 or similar provisions for withholding any documents or information requested under this ordinance, and it has a similar provision. in 6424 i, i and could expand on that a little bit. page eight of the memo, for example, in the other places. >> okay. >> and i do believe however, that where there is a privacy interest, either asserted or recognized, that there is a need for a privacy balancing, which i would not consider a 6255. balancing, but i think has in some ways, similar interests. or similar factors to be considered. and i'm fairly familiar with the case law, and in my opinion, the case law is not great, or particularly on point about this. and i think that the... >> let's back up

. >> ray hartz, director of san francisco open government, just a little catch up here, i was in marchamily and left on march 5, and returned on march 25th and you can manl my surprise when i came back and i found out that you had schedule a

but please open up your hartz and don't just listen to our stories but do something, you can, do something and fight alongside with us for housing for families, thank you. >> thank you very much. >> next speaker please? >> hello, my name is collins and i was homeless for two years. and i stayed at hampton transitional housing. and i have two daughters and i had a daughter in college. and and i chose to take care of my children to make sure that they stayed in school and my daughter stayed in college. and i did not choose to take care of myself. so the baby who they do have supportive housing in there with a case manager and i am very glad to have had that when i arrived there that it took time before i got to know my case manager and stuff like that. but when people are homeless and stuff, we go through a lot of stuff. and my children have to go through all of that trauma stuff, and being to choose to take care of my children well and a lot of you know me from the western edition and being involved with the children and stuff and i chose to take care of my children and i dependant take car

hartz. >> he was not asked a question and he just simply came up and started talking, if you are going to give him the additional time and then i am entitled to the additional time and i think that you know that. >> let me finish this line of questioning and then i will give you the additional time and i wanted also, and unless the others have the questions on this particular topic, and the standing issue, and can i hear from the staff and the city attorney on that point? >> i think that there are two questions and i think that one question is was it a due process violation for the sunshine ordinance task force to refer a willful violation by mr. ginsburg to the ethics commission even though he was not named as a respondent below? and i think that is one question. and i think that the second question, is assuming that there was no due process violation, and whether or whether there is or whether there is enough to find a willful violation based on the state of the evidence as to whether he knew anything about this disclosure, or whether as a department, head, he is responsible for deci

hartz. >> members of the ethics commission, as mr. pilpal, has appeared in behalf of the defense i would like to make a couple of things clear, a department head like it or not is responsible for anything wrongful that happens in his department and yes he can sit there but mr. ginsburg got notice, and he knows that this is going on, he decided, or told somebody else who decided who to send here to answer on his behalf. and if they are unable to answer those questions, sufficiently that again is his responsibility. the bottom line if you are in command in an organization, you are responsible, period, whether you like it or not. and to say otherwise, is dishonest. now i would say one thing to the members of the ethics commission, mr. pilpal while a member of the sunshine ordinance task force, often comes to meetings like this, saying that is he a member and then, under cutting the decisions of the task force, about matters with which he disagreed during the initial discussion. and i would suggest that you look at the decision and issued

hartz. >> it was e-mailed on march...t. >> is there a motion to adjourn the meeting? >> so moved. >> second. >> yeah. we need the public comment on that. >> public comment on the motion to adjourn. >> no. >> okay. all in favor? >> aye. >> opposed? >> none, the meeting is adjourne >> good morning. welcome to the thursday, may 1, 2014, meeting of the board of supervisors neighborhood services & safety committee. happy mayday i'm supervisor campos i'm the chair of the committee we're joined by supervisor yee and vice chair eric mar is in route the clerk is derrick and we want to thank the following members of the sophisticating jim smith and charles. mr. clerk, do we have announcements. and use of cell phones, pagers and similar sound-producing electronic devices are prohibited at this meeting. please be advised that the chair may order the removal from the meeting room removal from the meeting room cell phone, pager, or other similar sound-producing electronic devices. >> wonderful call item one. >> so consider the transfer the beer and wine license to 1097 howard stree