slamming the door today on the program, harum and saba. it's tempting to think that there's an easy answer. so in one way, donald trump's answer seems easy, and it may satisfaction in that. >> that there's no outside coordination, that this couple got this notion and pulled it off. >> we have had 350 plus mass shoot innings the united states this year alone, and not everyone was radicalized islam. we had a lot of lone wolf attacks from all over, and i'm from oregon, and i know in oregon there was a shooting recently that took the lives of many people on a college campus, so we do have a gun culture and serious issues that doesn't happen in the uk, because you can't just get a gun to commit crimes. it's not that easy. but i am a supporter of gun rights, but i think that it needs to be limbed and governed and monitored. and we need to come up with creative solutions, because people becoming radicalized should not have access to weapons and ranges. and we need to see why there are so many mass shootings in the u.s. >> but harum, how do we kno