to harvard and join harvard college in radcliffe college. she had in mind harvard would take on the whole responsibility for women's education and radcliffe would function as an undergraduate college on an equal basis with harvard college. the following roadmap turned out to be much more difficult than bunting might have imagined those in coeducation be realized by 1972. the formal merger between harvard and radcliffe was not until 1999. understanding the long torturous path to merger requires the deep investments of radcliffe trustees in extreme prestige of their college and relinquishing any part of that compromising the institution fundamental independence was not to be undertaken lightly. a series of steps taken in the 1960s and 1970s, president bunting's initiative, harvard and radcliffe closer together. harvard began awarding degrees to radcliffe students, undergraduate from 1963. in 1966 the harvard register office took over the undergraduate registration including course enrollments, and issuance of transcripts and in 1967 harvard op

suing harvard university. they say that affirmative action hurts asian students and they have the numbers to prove it according to a study by princeton universitiation applicants must score 140 points higher on the sat. 200 points higher than black students and 450 than frerp students just to have the same shot at getting in. is that fair? joining us with someone who think it is fair harvard alum who supports affirmative action. part of a group fighting a lawsuit we just mentioned and he joins us live. jay, thanks a lot for coming on. my question is really simple what would you say and if you are a father you could be in this position some day. what would you say to a kid applying to harvard or elite school in the united states who doesn't get in because is he held to different and higher standards because of his skin color and says to you that's unfair because, of course, it is. what would your response be? >> well, tucker, i am a father so this is a discussion college admissions i will have. what i will say

when you switch to columbia from harvard for your third year, harvard would not give you a degree. got a degree from columbia. said i ginsburg: they ha had to stay for the third year. charlie: your husband was moving to new york. justice ginsburg: yes. i did not want to be a single mom. there were two things. marty had been diagnosed with a severe cancer. we did not know how long he was going to live, we didn't want to be a part that year. i didn't want to be a single mom to my three-year-old daughter. so i asked the dean if i successfully complete my education at columbia, well i get a harvard degree? absolutely not. you have to spend a third year here. i had taken the first year of law school. she transferred into her second year class. dean, she will have year two and three and you're going to give her a degree? the first year is the most important. two.e one and thelie: to come back to point, what is lovely about this they then wanted to give you a degree to the law school. justice ginsburg: that is when my now colleague, when she became dean. every year she said ruth, we would

after two years to colombia for your third year, harvard would not give you a degree. you had to. >> they said i had to stay for the third year. >> rose: and you got the third year at colombia because your husband was moving to new york, correct? >> yes. >> rose: right. >> i didn't want to be a single mom. there were two things, really. marty had been diagnosed with a very serious cancer. we didn't know how long he was going to live. and so we didn't want to be apart that year. and i didn't want to be a single mom to my then three year old daughter. so i asked the dean if i successfully complete my leave of education at kol-- colombia, will i get a harvard degree, actually not. you have to spend your third year here. i had the purpose of-- a classmate of mine at corknell had taken her first year of law school at penn. she transferred into our seconded year class. i said to the dean, mrs.-- will have year two and three an are you going to give her a degree. you say the first year is by far the most important. i have year one and two, a fourth year at pace. >> rose: to c

. >>> personal attacks between the clinton and trump campaigns at a harvard debate. that's already becoming legend. that's next. . >>> a political brawl at harvard in every presidential election since 1972. the harvard kennedy school has campaign teams of each party to capture what they call a first draft of history in real time. >>> the year's discussion largely mirrored what we saw on the campaign trail. just to listen to the fireworks exchange when it waim came to the topic of trump's chief strategist steve ban none. >> he gets held to a standard >> wow, that's intense fireworks. incredible. just ahead, 500 instagram followers. she is the most popular person in the world. can you guess who it is? plus, paul ryan didn't see a trump victory coming. that's not all he reveals. you are watching "early today." just gotta get the check. if you have alligator arms, you avoid picking up the check. what? it's what you do. i got this. thanks, dennis! if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. growwwlph. it's what you do. oh t

so he says, people from princeton, harvard and yale mary people from princeton, harvard and yale and they then have children they send to prep schools so they can go to princeton, harvard and yale and live in a zip code surrounded by other people that go to princeton, harvard or yale. when trump began to rise, none of them junld stood the power of "the apprentice," because it wasn't on pbs. it wasn't "downton abbey." i am going to close and take a few minutes of questions. i apologize i ran quite this long. this is a very important tushing point in american history. i cannot say to you too strongly, every day by inertia, by bureaucracy, by hostility, by the very definitions of the old order, every day, we will face active resistance trying to stop us from the revolution we need. so we need a movement nationwide. we need to talk about and work about and i hope that heritage might let me come back over and do a series of talks building a series of principles that i think are at the heart of trumpism. i think across the country, whether you. >> narrator: are in the school board or city

♪share the spice of life. ♪♪ >>> let me finish tonight with the event last night at harvard.ute of politics which hosted the forum last night featuring the trump and hillary clinton campaign managers is usually a more convivial affair. last night was anything but, and there's a reason for it. the reason is the campaign didn't turn out the way it was supposed to. nobody had reason to believe trump was going to win, not even the top trump people believed he was going to break through the firewall and grab pennsylvania, michigan, then wisconsin. so the losers haven't had a chance to digest what happened. it takes time to realize the world you imagined thou two years of campaigning in is not the world you live in. feelings are craw, for women who felt he got away with words that should never get spoken, forhan for immigrants, for mexicans. i could live with a little bitterness after all that. i'm glad to live in a country when confronted with this, do more than say ouch and forget about it. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. coming up next, "your business" with

david: 22 to at harvard, an athlete or a scholar?loyd: i was a swimmer in high school, never very good in college. i went there and i tried to do that but was not any good. david: did you not try off for the swimming team? lloyd: i did. david: i thought at one point heard you say you were still swimming. lloyd: no, i did. i thought i was built for endurance so we get a smallish race and the other kids that finishers may work finished showering after i finish. i moved from there to the boathouse. david: what if you decide you wanted to be a lawyer or go to law school? lloyd: i was 18 years old. i was young and by the time i sorted things out, i was pretty bad for it while, took a lot of science courses, did not know what i wanted to do and toyed with the idea of being an academic. i was a good student but not that good of a student and it also dawned on me that at some point i needed to pay off student loans and earn a living so i thought i would be a professional, apply to law school at a lot of people just walk down the block from c

so far, you've met the young charles krauthammer, harvard medicine, class of '75.ife seemed to be going according to plan, but then no life ever really does. this snapshot was taken in may 1972. it shows a strapping 6'1" charles krauthammer standing on the beach. it's the confident smile of a young man well on his way to making it -- smart, athletic, handsome, driven, the future all his. >> that was spring break in my first year in medical school. i went with a bunch of friends to bermuda. that actually is the last picture of me taken standing. of course, i didn't know at the time. and i was coming out of the water carrying my sandals. i saw one of my friends with a camera, and then when i got to the top of the dune, i just stood there for a picture. thought nothing of it until i discovered it years later lying around in a box. and remembering it, of course, it was a fateful picture. >> fateful because of what would happen back at harvard that summer. you were 22 years old. tell me about that day. >> i went out. we had -- it was -- it was the end of my first year i

david: were you surprised when you got into harvard?id you think about not going because you couldn't afford it? lloyd: my mother and father didn't go to college. to apply occur to me to that fancy of school. i knew i was going to go to college but i didn't assume -- i about prepading -- school. i didn't know what a prep school was. so it wasn't like i had expectations. fromw that no other kid thomas jefferson high school went into the ivy league that year but how, some guy from harvard spoke to me and encouraged me to apply. and fiscal cool waves the application fees and everything. and i wasn't that spectacular. it wasn't like i had perfect board schools. i don't know what made them want to invest. i got there and i was grateful. david: when the you got there, did you say, these kids are smarter than me? or they are not as smart as me? lloyd: the first thing i did when i got accepted to college, my parents took me to something called the mail shop on ralph avenue in brooklyn where they bought me, for $40, sports jackets, slacks, or or

ll was the son of harvard english professor who started a firm. he had been the southern county district attorney and he had been active in political causes. like check for, he supported theodore roosevelt for president in 1912 and had also worked hard to get justice brandeis confirmed. a mutual friend described hill and friend for as brothers under the skin. fee agreed to work for no to represent sacco and vanzetti and only to have the fees of his associates paid. on august 6, 1927, he filed a new appeal. he argued judge thayer was to prejudice to hear the appeal. judge thayer however disagree. frankfurtermemo wrote about judge thayer and his prejudgment of the case as follows, the point is this as i not requiredsed is otherwise judge but surely the athens -- essence of anglo-american trial provides a judge. process wasdue agencies andthe thayer had a rooted prejudice and held it throughout all of the proceedings. august 10 was a scheduled day for execution for sacco and vanzetti. at 12:23 hill appeal to the governor. when that stay of execution

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there were harvard students there, and the whole point was to get this record. instead they were just going at each other. as kasie said, there was a lot of gloating going on as part of the trump team, and the clinton team very defensive, but defending their principal, hillary clinton, and the attacks got more and more raw, and the anger more raw, and there was a motion, and we didn't know whether to step in or back off. it was very, very tough. >> the fact that there is just audio and no video almost increases the drama, especially when jen-paul-mary gets choked up. nicolle, i assume you like the harvard school better as a winning candidate than a losing candidate, but they were all magnanimous. >> here's the thing. i went in '04 after we won, and i went in '08 after we lost. in both instances, the tone is set by the winning campaign. when you win, it is your job to make the other side feel comfortable because you have the far easier job. the trump campaign is so unique, because from the top of the organization on down, they are grinding axes like it's going ou

we're at harvard law school. amidst all this talk about racial privilege, how about talk about harvard privilege. i mean, could somebody who was, quote, traumatized by this piece of theater or this piece of awful racist vandalism, could they with a straight and unembarrassed face go to a syrian refugee center or go to a battered women's shelter and say, you know, i was traumatized, too. i know where you're coming from. i just -- i just don't think they could. on the administrative side -- then i will shut up -- it's important historically to emphasize that for most of our history on campuses, students and administrators were at loggerheads. the history of the american university is actually a profoundly conflict to all and sometimes violent one. 19 income century and there were duals on american campuses and food fights. the students loved to do that. at overland, the center of all sorts of important social moves. ... the point is into 1960's and 7 0's, there was tension between protestors. liberal democrats call

congresswoman, we will get to the harvard dustup in a moment. let's start with mr.mp's speeches last night. it seemed to me there were kind two of speeches. there was the one on the teleprompter very uplifting, laying out an agenda for the next 100 days of his administration but then he was ad-libbing, zunting himself with a different speech in which he bashed the media, talked about the dishonest reporters. he jabbed governor kasich of ohio for supporting him and openly crowing about his victory over hillary clinton. have you ever seen a president or president-elect act like that before? >> i think mr. trump was so excited to be back out on the campaign trail if you will and back out with people who have stood with him and supported him and, chris, have really believed in him that he is going to help open the door to jobs growth. to national security and they truly are focused on picking up and carrying forward and doing their part to make america great again. they're excited about it i have never seen such enthusiasm. >> and what do you think of the agenda that th

you go up to harvard today, well, within walking distance of harvard square there is not one but two whole food stores and the rest of the town is like that and it formed, this was part of forming a culture. the other part of forming a culture was that brains became much more valuable in the marketplace. the ways could you make money just by being smart, whether it's working for apple or whether it is making lots more as an attorney, if you were cognitively able to negotiate complex regulations and laws, it just became a lot more valuable to the smart. so you had this class which i call the new upper class, which coalesced in the decades after the 1950's, and of course they did well. now, they don't get married, so if we're talking about the sexual revolution they participated in that fully for their 20's. tamar: eventually they do, though, when it gets around to raising kids. charles: but then it's time to settle down and have a family, and they -- look, one of the aspects of having academic talent is there are a whole bunch of correlated things that go with that. one of those is, a

i want to get your reaction to what happened up at harvard. election review? is this something they always do? explain kind of what they were doing and what do you make of what happened there? >> it's actually a good idea. i mean, i commend harvard for doing it. it's a good idea to debrief for the nation on the election. i agree with kellyanne, not to be overly partisan, i don't have a democrat to rebut me. they really do need to let it go. there's no evidence whatsoever that steve bannon is a white supremist or trump has any engagement with white supremist. huffing ton post and all these blogs. once something said on the air it becomes fact >> it is fact though that he was the head of right bark news, which we know had very at right articles, slammed all sorts of people, you can understand wipe people would make that leap. also, the, you know, some of the white supremest praised right bard and steve bannon that position. certainly understand the democrats side of that >> i agree. it's further right than even someone like me. maybe that will frighten your audi

you can too. >>> a political brawl at harvard. that's one way at least to describe it. in every presidential election since 1972, the harvard kennedy school has held a forum between the leading campaign teams of each political party. well, to capture what they call a first draft of history in real time, so to speak. and this year's discussion largely mirrored what we witnessed on the campaign trail. listen to the fireworks when it came to steve bannon. >> he gets heltd that none of these other folks are held to. >> dan, if providing a platform for white supremacists makes me a brilliant tactician, then i am glad to have lost. give me a minute, david. when i am more proud of hillary's alt-right speech than any other moment on the campaign because she had the courage to stand up. i would rather lose than win the way you guys did. >> no, you wouldn't. no, you wouldn't. >> yes, yes. you wouldn't, respectfully. how exactly did we win? go for it. how exactly did we win? i would like to know, because i sacrificed the last four months of my life to do it, and we did it, and we

he says people from princeton, harvard, yale, merry people from princeton, harvard, yale. they have children they send to prep schools, go to those three schools, and moved to zip codes surrounded by people who want to those schools. when trump began to rise, none of them understood the power of the apprentice. it was not on pbs. [laughter] and it wasn't downton abbey. i will take it few minutes. i apologize iran is long. i believe this is a very important turning point in american history. i cannot say too strongly. every day by inertia, by bureaucracy, by hostility, by the varied definitions of the old order, every day, we will face active resistance trying to stop us in the revolution we need. we need a movement nationwide, thised to talk about building a series of principles that i think are at the heart of trump is him. i think across the country, whether your school board, city council or state legislature or you're just a citizen trying to help, we need to think through why is our side of this watershed where we tell the truth, where we believe in work ethic from wh

. >> harvard comes to suffolk county.ejects a chance at freedom. >> i ripped my parole papers up, because i don't need them. that's gangsta. ." >>> doing time in boston's suffolk county jail is a world away from the colleges or ivy league university located just miles away. but once a week those two worlds intersect when students from harvard university and boston college come to the jail to help inmates earn their geds. >> for them to come in and do it for us as little convicts, i should say, that's a good thing. looking out for us. showing us, you know, there is a world out there. there is help out there. people want to help you. >> girard cohen has been teamed with alexander, a harvard sophomore. >> it's one of these things, you can do the answers in your head probably, just to be sure, because we all make mistakes and try do it in our head, just write it out. it will take five extra seconds, but it's totally worth it. if you're taking a test, each answer matters for the final score. people have a wall about what how t

the guest, an asian harvard grad argued they aren't engaging in discrimination.ool's affirmative action policy. tucker took him on. >> if you are against racism and racial discrimination, why are you supporting explicitly supporting a system that penalizes people for the color of their skin? >> the students who apply are not being penalized because of their race. the application process is entirely -- affirmative action benefits asian american students. it recognizes the asian american experience is not all the same. >> but that's all gobbledygook. >> they don't have a quota system. >> is it racial discrimination to not let somebody into college based on his race? >> they are not admitting students based solely on race. there are other factors involved. içlegacy and whether you went to a private school. >> you are diverting from the question. if racial discrimination is wrong -- i believe it is -- then it's just wrong. >> that was your favorite part. >> you are a harvard grad. so i listened to that. i was trying to figure out who is this person that would try to

this week, harvard hosted its traditional election postmortem from winning and losing campaigns, nott the general election, primaries as well. what's typically a reflective second draft of history soon ran hostile as emotions ran highlight. jennifer palmieri accused the website breitbart once run by ceo steve bannon of promoting racist views. >> it's providing a platform for white supremacists. makes me a brilliant tactician i am glad to have lost. >> do you think i ran a campaign where white supremacists had a platform. are you going to look me in the face and say that? >> it did. >> and kellyanne took issue with pollster joel ben nen son for bringing up clinton's popular vote lead. >> the fact of the matter is more americans voted for hillary clinton than donald trump. >> there is nothing that said the road to popular vote anywhere -- >> i premised my statement by saying that. >> hey, guys, we won. you don't have to respond. >> kellyanne conway and joel n benenson are here now. we will see if there's any more yelling. they both promised there won't be. different versions of the sam

david: you went to harvard and you dropped out.ave you ever thought about how your life could be better off if you have gotten your harvard degree? out: i'm a weird drop because i take college courses all the time. i love learning company courses and things. i love being a student. and there were smart people around and they fed you and they gave you nice grades that made you feel smart. i feel it was unfortunate that i didn't get to stay there. what i don't think i missed any knowledge. it is whatever i needed to learn, i was in a learning mode. david: in the early days, you were a college dropout and very young looking. did you get taken seriously by businessmen who were older? -- it wassome people like hey, should we trust them? it's weird. we've never seen something like that before. i couldn't rent cars and i had to take cabs around. i was too young. but as we got a little bit of success, people were fascinated by the deep belief we had in software. david: when microsoft is moving forward, you decide to take the company public

it's all different. >> you didn't leave harvard, harvard left you. >> when i was there it was gentle.entlemanly. womanly. >> in washington -- >> the guy is a genius. >> he said when kissinger got the nobel peace prize that one act effectively killed political satire forever. you can't top it. >> in washington, we have david ignatius. thank you, david. >> fight fiercely. >> one sad fact of history. today is the last episode of "with all due respect." tonight is the night. >> tonight is the night? we know what you're doing. >> i love it. >> "tonight is the night" excellent run but 6:00 p.m. and 5:00 a.m. seems to be a bit much. >> you have big things coming. >> all i can say is david copperfield, watch out. >> we have a lot going on. donald trump was in cincinnati, ohio, last night. the first leg of what the transition is calling a thank you tour. here it is. >> i kept hearing you must win ohio. you cannot win the presidency without ohio. so we started really we were about even at the beginning. then we had a couple troughs. with ohio it got better and better. history called and the peo

susan: i studied history and literature at harvard and i had no idea i was going to go into technology at all. if you had told me that, i would've thought you were completely crazy. i used to come home and do these temp jobs with a week free and call a service and say, just place me anywhere and one time i was at a lawyer, another time placed at a garbage company to answer the phone in the first time i got placed at a startup and i realized, they can use technology and they have these big ambitions and i thought, that is cool and i want to be part of it. i went back as a senior and decided to take the computer science class at harvard which was crazy because there was no other humanity senior taking a computer science class but it was really good and i got a good basis. when i moved back home, i came to silicon valley and i was able to get a job and i have been there ever since. emily: you were google's 16th employee. you built the ad business, google blogs, how many hats have you worn in 18 years? susan: when you join a startup, you have to be willing to do whatever the start up needs

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i was at the harvard forum. more on that in a moment. we are seeing the breaking news first from the washington post, then cnn that he was the person. we had all been reporting, hallie jackson, kristen welker reporting that he would be the choice. i was surrounded by trump officials saying, no, it's not official. jason miller, the press secretary saying, no, it's not a done deal, it will happen next week. we understand this. this is what happened. >> they had a roll-out plan. >> and the plan wasn't to step on the message of last night's victory rally, whatever it was. >> sure. >> and then you saw what happened. >> the candidate himself confirmed it -- president-elect, excuse me. >> the president-elect says, don't tell anybody, but guess what. mad dog mattis and there it is. it's all out there. the fact is don, jr., knew it best. he retweeted one of the stories announcing mattis as jason miller was saying it wasn't happening. >> this decision was made a week ago. >> right. there was one sticking point. we don't know how it was resolved an

so what we saw play out at harvard doesn't surprise me at all. i think there is still raw emotions, still stings for a lot of people. a lot of them had really anticipated going to the white house. i think most of them did. and were planning their -- their careers and so right now they're unemployed and trying to plan the future. >> in terms of that second guessing, though, is there any looking back and thinking we should have done more campaign events. she was off the trail, certainly as compared to donald trump, for big stretches of time. >> yeah. and i think there is a lot of that. there is a lot of polling questioning too, how could they not see somewhere like, you know, a blue state like pennsylvania that hadn't gone to the republicans since 1988, you know, how they let that go. county like erie county turning red is, you know, a big question mark to them. how did that happen? there is a lot of that. there is a lost finger pointing saying there were different tacts taken by different people within the campaign and people butted heads and so i

it was the single greatest harvard debate beatdown in history. i mean they still seem to not believe what happened. >> probably the only way i can get into harvard. >> probably. you and me both. >> anyway, we were talking about the messaging, the mechanics, the digital operation, the way dave bosscy and i had looked at the schedule to deploy our greatest assets to different states that were part of her blue wall to dip into her 244 electoral advantage that she started with. it was a perfectly fine conversation and then it just unloaded and it just struck he as a complete lack of self awareness of what happened three weeks ago. we saw that on display this week from the democrats. they had a chance to learn from their own election and refused to. they put nancy pelosi in there as their leader for another term, lost 60 congressional seats on her watch, the speaker of the house for four years and then lost that perch because they took the country in a pro-government direction. they've lost 1,000 legislative seats on president obama's watch. 5 dozen h