this time the scene is harvard.the school, charging that harvard admissions officers disregard their sterling test scores and grades and hold them to a higher standard. although a federal judge ruled in october siding with the university, the case is far from over. that's because the man behind the lawsuit is edward blum, one of the nation's most influential and conservative opponents of affirmative action. >> harvard systematically raises the bar for asian-americans and systematically lowers it for whites, african-americans, and hispanics. >> blum has vowed to appeal that decision and many believe it will end with a national showdown at a supreme court dominated by conservatives, many of whom are long-time skeptics of affirmative action. >> one of the ironies of the harvard case is while it pretends to be about discrimination against asian-americans in admissions, it's really not. it's really an attack on affirmative action for blacks and hispanics. >> but many colleges feel that affirmative action is still badly n

you applied to harvard, yale, and princeton. harvard did not accept you.o you then got out some coins and called the director of admissions at harvard and said you made a mistake. what was that like? steve: that was frightening. we did not have cell phones then. so i got some quarters, and i found the phone number for the admissions office. the payphone was outside the gym. i stood there and put those quarters in and you could hear the ringing when they dropped down. i asked for the dean of admissions and i was put right through. he picks up the phone and i said hi, i am steve schwarzman from avington high school in pennsylvania. i am on the waiting list. and i would really like to go to harvard. why don't you take me off the waiting list? he said, how in the world did you get through to me? you are not allowed to talk to me. i don't talk to applicants. and i said, but we are talking. he said yes. he said you sound like a very nice young man, but unfortunately, we are not going to be taking anyone from the waiting list this year. our yield was higher than

it's harvard-yell. the protesters are basically preaching to the choir. but the for the parents there because they are part of the problem. the teachers are part of the problem. i like the fact they are not holding up traffic or keeping people from going to work. there intruding on people's lives in blocking public life, or hospitals where the patients can get there. people vandalizing and blocking cars and trains and buses, preventing people going to work. i hate those people. if one of those people got in front of my car, fill in the blank. but what you have here is a bunch of well off, snotty nosed will probably predominant white upper-middle-class attention seeking brats who are performing to the people who will brag about it later. though some of the anybody there. i laugh, laugh, laugh, didn't watch the game, didn't know they had teams for they aren't even a real sport. your schools are irrelevant. ivy league schools are dead. ivy league schools are dead. >> jesse: you don't care about this because they don't care about sports. imagine if they did t

or yale-harvard football. >> wait. >> it's harvard-yale on your show the event was disrupted when climate change protesters demanded fossil fuels. it's toward responsible investing or divestment. where do you come in terms of this on whether divestment, which is the point of these protesters, is an effective tool >> first, i'd like to say i really do empathize with the protesters i think what we're seeing is that young people really feel a sense of urgency about addressing climate change. actually investors whether you're an asset ordinary reaswn manager, we have a range of strategies we can use in order to prompt companies to perform more responsibly there's the way you vote your proxies. you can submit shareholder proposals to that effect and also actively engaging with companies whether you're in the public markets or private markets that can have an effect as well. i think that the focus on divestment is a bit too blunt of an instrument. >> the protesters, most of them, would not have the ability to go mount a shareholder proposal at exxon or chevron but they could influence, i suppos

at one point you were a candidate for the president of harvard. tell us if you have gotten those jobs you might not be sitting here today. so how should we think about this kind of disappointments? >> those are high cost of disappointments. [laughter] >> you know, i also had some. the funny thing about if somebody looks at a resume that has all these great jobs on it and it doesn't have all the jobs you didn't get. there are plenty of jobs i didn't get along the way that i thought i wanted, but i don't know. i think what i tended to discover -- and you know, the example that you gave about the dc circuit judge schiff is a good example of that. when a door closes someplace, a window opens. that might be magical thinking that it happened often enough but i believe it. sometimes the disappointments are the best things that ever happened or could ever happen to you and that was true for examples of the judgeship. i was nominated to be a judge minus 39. so i would have been very young and i would have spent my entire life on the court. i love the work

i am not a student at harvard or yale. does that mean -- and and a good, world the answer would be no. .yeah asks this student question and i revised it slightly -- what advice would you give to a young woman in a male dominated field like the law, and in particular, one who was to become a judge? >> go for it. if this is a law student. >> no, actually it's not but an undergraduate. >> that's a great ambition. and don't get outworked by a lot of men. to teach law school, is to find that some of the women did not volunteer as much of the man. -- the men. it could be that men talk when they don't really know that much. but i used to say to the women, just get in there. is sort ofrning law learning the language, learning how to talk law. and the assertive and be bold and you are as good as anybody and go be a judge. >> do you think law is now male-dominated or have you broken the back of that? >> we are in a time better place than we used to be. you can see this on the court. there are four women justices and two are of one g

>> we do have a harm harvard alum here.ut why a stadium that doesn't use fossil fuels? >> melissa: if there is something to that. i don't know how many times i've gone into the stadium during the game, may be zero but obviously tailgate in the parking lot. these games are not a huge barn burners as it is, as kennedy said. but i do think, take away from everybody going to the games. they set themselves up for all kinds of jokes about check your privilege at the door. this is not it is a storied tradition. this has big history and is important to the people that are playing. as her kids to get to go to ivy league schools on scholarships because they are good at what they do. they played for more than a century, this is a thing. >> okay. >> chris: but if it's too much for you to have a football game, if you can't handle that, if you are triggered by this and protesting that, get it togeth together. >> jessica: "the wall street journal" editorial board at blast of the process calling it a stunt designed to get immediate attenti

she was on the law review, which i didn't read at harvard. but then we went on to have a significant overlap in our professional lives as well. i was a judge on the juvenile and domestic relations district court for the city of richmond, literally the baby court in every way, and she, as you know, is a justice on the highest court in the land. even though those courts are quite different, there are some significant overlaps, and they are both all about the rule of law. you know, judges get all excited about the rule of law. and not everybody quite understands that all the time. but the fundamental part, the fundamental essence of the rule of law is the principle that all rule -- that the rules apply equally to everybody. so it is fundamentally about equality. and when you travel in other countries, as i've had occasion to do in life, where the rule of law doesn't apply, where courts, where there isn't an independent functioning judiciary, where people in certain parties or groups don't have to comply with the rules that others have to comply

the first deafblind person to graduate from harvard law school? >> that is -- >> what was that experience like? >> we had a lot of unknowns. i couldn't reach out to another deafblind harvard law graduate and ask them, how did you do this? how did you too oral arguments, take care of exams. i had to figure a lot of it out, and it actually started way back in elementary school, when i had to learn to advocate for my needs and to navigate the school system. one of my early chapters in my book is an experience where a teacher told me i was failing a class, and this was middle school. and i was extremely surprised because i did all my assignments. how can i be failing a class when i'm doing all the assignments. and we investigated what was going on, and my -- the teacher talk to the mainstream teacher, this was red heart middle school in oakland, california, as mainstream public school so i was attending classes with nondisabled students so not a specialized school. and after the teacher for the blind talked to the mainstream teacher, they realized tha

and as their relationship deepened, both of the harvard law grads decided to make career moves.his passion, barack turned down a good offer from saidly and austin. >> well, when he came to tell me, he said, i love you guys, i love the work, i'd be happy here, but i can't take the job. and i said, why? and he said, i think i'm going to go into politics. and he said, i'm taking michelle with me. i said, you no-good, rotten, worthless piece of -- he said, hold it, we're going to get married. i said, that's different. >> a year later in the fall of 1992, michelle robinson became michelle obama in a ceremony presided over by the couple's pastor, the reverend jeremiah wright jr., a figure who would stir up controversy for the obamas in years ahead. michelle launched a new career in public service. first working in the chicago mayor's office. then starting a chapter of a mentoring organization called public allies. >> you can go back to her work at public allies in chicago where she really started and ran a program that was all about mentoring and introducing young people to public ser

john went off to harvard college, which he graduated from in three years. he was there, he came back for spring break one time and landed at logan airport in boston and said to the cabdriver, can you take me to cambridge? the cabdriver said, are you a student at harvard? yes, i what are you majoring in? am a. majoring in history. the cabdriver said, when i was a student in harvard, that is what i majored in also. [laughter] so john thought maybe his father had some good ideas there. he did stay as a history major, but he did think law may be might be a good profession. our country is much better off for his having been a lawyer and a great justice of the super court. he would have been a great historian as well, but it is my privilege and honor to introduce the 17th chief justice of the united states, john roberts. [applause] chief justice roberts: thank you, very much. i think i would have been a good cabdriver too. lonnie bunch, at the opening of the african-american museum of history and culture, scheduled me to give remarks after a musical performance b

you were my law professor at harvard. you taught law. you were to no one from being an assistant processor to a story career. along the way, you were the dean of harvard law school. you are just my favorite law professor. i'm not alone in that in 2008. junior senator from illinois was a man named barack obama. he said when i was at harvard law school, i had a teacher who changed my life. martha. >> it is such a delight to be here. i have learned so much from you through the years. >> i love the book because it has your voice. it's compassionate. it's brilliant. it is wise. it is grounded weird it is gently provocative. >> thank you. >> how did you come to doing this legendary career. the highest legal power to writing a book about forgiveness >> i wrote a book about 20 years ago about responses to mass violence. at that time, the commission in south africa had just started. i was so intrigued by the development of a new legal institution to deal with horrific violence and oppression. i wrote a book finding an alternative to these two dif

they didn't respond or reply a comment, but it didn't matter, more than 650 students at harvard -- harvard -- decided to petition condemning the paper for contacting i.c.e. the young democrats at the campus issued a statement, "deliberately choosing to put our students in jeopardy." one campus activist group is not urging a boycott of the newspaper because calling i.c.e. was just that scary. that's pretty funny. on the other hand, it's really kind of ominous, because our meritocracy is essentially fraudulent, and our system is completely rigged for the benefit of a few. a lot of these shallow, neurotic narcissist that we are making fun of tonight will, in the end, wind up running this country. those people writhing on the floor about how they are so threatened -- yeah, they are going to be in charge. they shouldn't be, but because the system is rigged, they will be. they will be making the decisions that affect your life, and the lives of your children and grandchildren, and these are the people who literally couldn't care less of at the first amendment -- or any amendment. in fact, any do

anybody whether the harvard administration, the university president at harvard and yell university,you that our new estimate is not the answer for what these people are looking for. that is white's empty activism. any reasonable student i trust both are pretty smart and can look at these points and say you are right that investment doesn't make much sense everyone to have actual change we would open dialogue somewhere off the football field, other than investment and something that can actually institute real change in our world. >> going back to the gate in the form for which is was presented, the husband other activism about climate change and so forth, what was the swell with respect to storming the field interruption, who was behind this, a couple different groups, what is the background on that? >> when you get alumni and a current student body in action and a few people here it's time to rush the field, that sounds pretty fun but then you throw in this role that were going to be protestants of the people are like let's do it, without even asking what they're really protesting.

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you were my law professor at harvard. you taught law. were to no one from being an >> along the way you with the an dean of harvard law school. you were a law professor when i first met you in 2008 as a junior senator a man named barack obama. and i had a teacher who changed my life. >> it's a delight to be here >>and i have met so much from you. >> i love this book because it has your voice it is compassionate and brilliant and it is gently provocative. how did you come during this legendary career from the legal power cracks. >> i wrote a book about 20 years ago with violence in the truth of the conciliation had just started and i was so intrigued by the development of the new institution to deal with horrific violence and oppression. i wrote the book and with those responses to any horrific act and since that time why cannot self forgive and it nags me. a >> the law does forgive at times but tell us about those example examples. >> particularly since one of the most fundamental commitments and whatever forgiveness is that's not what i

thank you to harvard bookstore thank you to the harvard book store for having us. i am going to read a little bit from the introduction. problem with medicine is empowerment. in california a woman returns to the clinic where she have an iud and suited to have it removed because in her words i went from a happy go lucky 31-year-old to her depressed walking zombie in just three weeks. they tell her she doesn't think it's a good idea tells her to wait six months. says what happens when you have an abortion. after making her case and be denied multiple times to patients shaking with anger turns the request into a demand. the clinician rolls her eyes and takes that device out. in somers point, new jersey a woman having her second baby as nine out of 10 centimeters dilated. feeling the urge to push when the obstetrician enters the room asks about the woman's previous delivery and tells her shall need a c-section this time. when the woman asked questions they threaten to call court legal people if she doesn't sign a consent form for surgery in minneapolis a 46-year-old wo

heard of harvard, jimmy?ly here. >> actually, my dad wouldn't let me apply to any of the schools that barbara applied to because he didn't want me to ruin her chances [ laughter ] >> that's true that's true. >> jimmy: that's hilarious >> that's not true >> that's true but i am going to harvard. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: congratulations. >> thank you >> jimmy: what are you going for? >> i'm studying -- i'm getting my master's in public policy >> jimmy: that's fantastic good for you for doing that. >> very fun. thank you. >> by the way, she called me day two and she was like, "i made a hundred on my economics test." >> jimmy: yeah [ cheers ] >> she did she's smart. >> thank you >> jimmy: yeah, you're very, very -- of course, yeah. [ applause ] >> i hope none of my new school friends are watching this. i'm embarrassed. >> jimmy: oh, my god >> well, you don't need to be embarrassed. >> i need to play it cool. >> jimmy: i want to talk about "sisters first." because i have two daughters, and they love being sisters. a

liz: we have news out of massachusetts specifically harvard and here is the news, harvard business schoolnounced that the dean of the business school noria is expected to step down in june of next year, noria, tenth dean of the harvard mba program has held position for 10 years, now there was no real reason given but comes just days after bloomberg business week put out 2019 ranking of the top business schools and harvard did not come in first or second, it did come in third behind stanford number 1 and dartmoth number 2. new robotics innovation hub in the base state that will create 200 jobs in the west borough area, r&d labs an manufacturing space, set to open in 2021 and, of course, along side amazon north red and outpost which will serve as the company's robotic epicenter, amazon shares are not moving down much, jeff bezos growing empire has jumped 19%, nice move year to date for amazon, all right, nice moves for connell mcshane, you're all over the map, you've seen your share of robots on the swing state, let's talk about where we are -- >> yes, you mentioned robotics, we reintroduce

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he went to harvard and majored in history. coming back from springo break this sophomore year got off the plane got in the cabin said to the cab driver take me to cambridge he said you a student at harvard?ke yes. what is your major? history. the cab driver said when i was a student harvard that's what i majored in also left buffy that maybe his father had good ideas. [laughter]on spent those are the types of things that come up. >> you have funny things like george washington. so it turns out could have lived a little bit longer. no member of his family lived past the age of 50 brick what he was asked to be president he was 57 he said i'm too old but he did it for four years. so he stayed for the eight years. he goes back around the age of 6465 to mount vernon. he tells people what to grow and rides around. it is a tradition that if you are passing through mount vernon you stop off and pay homage to the great man even if you don't know him. it said that george and martha never had dinner alone for 20 years because all the gue

did you get by working at harvard? what research advantages did you find as a political scientist that you did not have back in california, i think it is? , there have been multiple phases. i've been working on the project for 25 years because i was doing a study abroad in west berlin in 1989. that was the reason i got interested not only in this particular story but in being a historian altogether, living in berlin in 1989 and experiencing many of these events. i was very young then. i was two. of course i was not thinking as a professional scholar, i started collecting materials in a sense, so when i decided to so there was a, long phase of directing materials. the topic would not let go of me. i was always collecting materials and they just kind of collected dust or were on my desktop, but after i wrote the book on foreign policy that followed the fall of the berlin wall and realized there was a huge curiosity about how the wall came down, once i decided to write the book, i went to germany for more targeted intervi

all of you went to yale or harvard law school. and most of you went to ivy league undergraduate. princeton was a big part of it. so, there's not much diversity in that respect on the court now. is that anything that you think has an impact or >> some high courts, canada's high court has proportional geographical representation. so, a person number of justices come from the west coast provinces provinces. we don't do that. in fact, there was one state that it was vastly overrepresented, and that was arizona, because there was chief justice rehnquist and justice o'connor. population of arizona is not >> until justice scalia passed away, there were four of you from the five boroughs of new york city. >> so, we were diverse. the only thing we were missing was staten island. >> i'm sure the president, if he had an opportunity, whoever the president was, would have been looking for someone 50 years old from harvard and staten island. >> there's quite a few of them, by the way. >> should that matter? there was a time earlier in our history when there were certain geographic areas were p

i am a visiting professor at harvard, and it was great to be at harvard and be in the cambridge community while i wrote this book so many great resources that helped me to write this book. i have been asked a number of times about the origins of this book. the reasons i wrote it. and that actually has to do with my previous book called "1989, the struggle to create post cold war europe." these books are in the reverse order. 1989 talks about the foreign policy that followed the fall of the berlin wall. the collapse is actually about the fall of the berlin wall. so the new book is a prequel to my previous book. so how did that happen?this book is about the foreign policy that followed the fall of the berlin wall, and when i did book talks like this one, i'd say, i'm here to talk about the foreign policy that followed the accidental opening of the berlin wall. and often i would not even get to that sentence. somebody would interrupt me and say, time-out. what do you mean the accidental opening of the berlin wall?that was the polite version. sometimes i also got, you're an historian. don't y

one of the professors at harvard but i had written a few papers with on bipolar disorder come out ofe, got appointed by jimmy carter had as the equivalent of the national institute of mental health. a second i heard about it, i went right to his office and i said jerry, i hear you are going to washington and he said yes. i said if you go to washington without a right-hand man, they are going to eat you alive. he said where did you hear that? i said i made it up but i really think you need somebody. he said okay, you have the job. so i came to washington and jerry, my boss, and my professor, was the only person i knew in d.c. in the radius of 200 miles, but i thought once i'm in washington, isn't that where they do politics? one thing will lead another. i had been a leader of the new republic, very well written, interesting, and i thought maybe i could do this and then one da. the new republic seeks an managg editor. apply here. >> overwhelmed with the response and most of the writers wanted to get out of law and there was this one psychiatrist who was charles and we arrange for him t