and that, of course, was harvard college in the 1630s. and the kind of college that harvard immediately really set up to become was a college very similar to the colleges and universities that you would find in the europe that they had left behind, which in england would either be oxford or cambridge, which on the continent might be the university of paris, the university of bologna, the university of pisa all across europe. these colleges taught a curricula them in which the central part was the teaching of the six liberal arts. they were not teaching you technology. they were not teaching you sociology. they were not teaching anthropology. those things hadn't even been heard of. you were taught in colleges and universities of 17th century europe. you were taught. the six liberal arts and chief among those arts was the art of logic. logic, the art, as they said, of discourse nursing. well, logic was how you discovered things. and the body that logic offered rated upon was authority. you did not. and here's the great difference between th

david: harvard corporation is the 12 people that more or less run harvard. it is like a board.re the senior fellow or chair of it. what do you really do during that effort as a senior fellow? what is your responsibility? penny: david, as you know, because you serve on the corporation with me, we are a board really of -- we have two roles. we really advise the president and senior leadership of the university on very significant issues that are affecting either the schools or the university at large. we are involved in financial decisions. we are involved in governance decisions. during covid, lots of major topics that we worked with the university on. so we have the fiduciary duty as the corporation. the senior fellow is the leader of the corporation. it is like a lead independent director if you will. harvard, like the university of chicago, like many, many of our significant universities in this country, they are very important to the success of our country, and it's important that these institutions thrive. i find it very stimulating to try and be a good advisor and thought

i took it out of the diploma ad wrote return to sender and i crossed out harvard and crossed out harvarde critical theory institution and they've not gotten back to me. this movement for academic freedom these professors want, they're scared of the kids. they're scared of the students. it's the students coming in already indoctrinate that had are threatening professors that don't follow the line of the orthodoxy. this is about the job secure of insecure professors that won't come on fox to defend their views because they are so radical and they're afraid of the kids as well. stuart: it's a turning point to some degree it's a turning point. 100 harvard professors getting together in the council and they're doing it. doing something about it. >> harvard is lost. lost. i wouldn't hire a kid from harvard -- looking at kids coming out of ivy league and have to be complicit with a certain world view unless they're decidedly against it and it's antithetical to faith and our country. maybe it's a little glimmer of hope but it's inside a totally rotten institution. stuart: rotten institution. >>

the board of harvard. you so committed and interested in doing that job. penny: harvard is near and dear to my heart. i went to college there and i went today to mulch was time in my life and it served a very grounding -- as a grounding place for me. i met all kinds of people who influenced my life. i have dear friends from my experience in harvard. i think higher education is under attack. i like a challenge. and frankly after 386 years it's about time they had a woman leading. and i felt a call to rise to that occasion. david: it's like a board. what do you really do during that effort as senior fellow? what is your responsibility? penny: we are a board really -- we have two roles. we really advise the president and senior leadership of the university on very significant issues that are affecting either the schools or the university at large. we are involved in financial decisions. we are involved in governance decisions. during covid, lots of major topics that we worked with the university on. so we hav

talked my way into harvard business school. i was fascinated by the american machine. i don't know if you have spent a bit of time in europe, grew up in the 1970's and 1980's, it's fascinating. america is something you want to try to understand, the american economy, the american entrepreneurs are not someone you ever want to bet against. david: when you went into harvard business you entered in , 1992? jane: yes, that is right. david: were there a lot of women in your class? jane: probably 24%, 25%. something like that. there were enough of us to cause trouble. david: you graduated from harvard business school. and then you decide to go to mckinsey? jane: yes. david: why did you want to be a consultant? jane: first of all, why didn't i go back into banking at that time? i've been in banking in the 1980's where there were not many women in banking, like in the business school. -- unlike in the business school. they wore suits with big shoulder pads. they were more scary than the men. [laughter] you remember the era. so when i looked at the consulting, particularly mcki

when you went to harvard business school, you entered in 1992? something like that? jane: that's right. david: were there a lot of women in your class? jane: probably about 24%, 25%. something like that. yes. there were enough of us to cause trouble. ♪ david: growing up what did you say wanted to be? the ceo of citi? jane: i wanted to be a doctor, but i was really lousy at biology. so, that one ended quickly. david: that happens a lot to people who want to go to medical school. so, ok. you grew up in the edinburgh area? jane: i did. david: were your parents bankers? jane: no, definitely not. my father was a scottish accountant, which meant you are not really relying on parental generosity and extra pocket money from a scottish accountant as a father. so, i used to earn my pocket money on the golf course at st. andrews caddying, but you would not know it from my golf game. david: i'm sure it is better than mine. you went to cambridge. after you graduated, what did you do? jane: after i graduated, i joined goldman as an analyst. david: that is an easy job to get. an ea

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and who threatened stop giving to harvard unless i was fired. so in any event, she was killed and the neighbor couldn't get a lawyer. and and so the neighbors father said, well, if if we can't get a real lawyer, why don't go to dershowitz? he's a professor. maybe he can help. and and so i turned to my former harvey silvergate and i said, harvey, can you show me how to get to the courthouse? and together we worked and we obtained acquittals for all defendants in my first extraordinarily controversial case and particularly the jewish community who hated the jdl, the jewish defense league, meir kahane and, the radicals. they did. my mother didn't talk to me for a while as a result of that, a case. and that's how it really that was a pro bono case my first case, i would say 60% of my cases over my lifetime and causes have been pro. i never when i when the students used to have students who would evaluate the thousands letters i get every year asking me to defend. i would say the one thing i don't want to know is whether they're paying clients. you'r

and in today's program, we'll visit with harvard history and ty emails. the author most recently of all that she carried, which has won numerous awards. but first, here's a look at some publishing news. publishers weekly reports that after two years of strong book sales during the pandemic, print book sales fell about six and a half percent last year compared to 2021. nearly 789 million books were sold in 2020 to compared to. about 843 million the year before. now, adult fiction outperformed other categories and tick tock book talk drove sales for numerous fictional authors, especially for colin hoover, the prolific novelist had the top three bestseller books of 2022 and five of the top ten bestsellers. more publishing news from the new york times. new york mayor eric adams has proposed funding cuts to the city's public libraries. the proposed cuts of $13 million this fiscal year and more than $20 million next year have sparked concern among families elected officials and library leaders. libraries could respond to the trimmed budgets by scaling back hour

of harvard, larry summers.e had made the mistake of suggesting that women do not have the same intrinsic up attitude as men in mathematics and then he was out as president and now he's a harvard supporter. it'll take time to turn the woke movement back and best place to start is free speech in universities. the free speech movement is starting 50 years ago in berkly, california. third hour of varney starts right now. ♪ stuart: ben domenech with me this morning. i'm fired up, are the elites recognizing the value of free speech? >> stuart, i like when you get fired up about things and nothing you should be more fire department up about than the issue of free speech particularly in the types we've lived in america and that seems to be something increasingly objectionable as opposed to been ago issue that could unit right and left. on the importance of speaking freely and speaking your mind about the potential of having your life ruined and your career canceled but ramifications that essentially send -- are designe

and this is while is getting his master's degree at harvard. it's very difficult to divorce moment where the family's fortunes virtually overnight from adams's later activities. he will spend a great deal of the next decade more than a decade trying to fend the sheriff who attempts to repossess his father's house after his father's death. because adams himself is then liable for the debts. and so there is this kind of wonderful irony that he's, you know, fighting off the he's fighting off these huge debts at a time when america is being further taxed and the colonies are being further taxed. but it does seem to leave him sensitive to who is who is in charge in new england, who's in charge of massachusetts. this is destiny at this point. and if his his harvard thesis, which he writes just at this moment, is, in fact about it, too, but the question to which which he poses an answer is, is one obliged to honor the if the king of are the people obliged honor him if the republican not otherwise be preserved. and it really is right to heart of the qu

i would agree, i mean i, i was as a young student at harvard, i was involved in a harvard divestment campaign. and in, you know, we are trying for a long time and, and the other thing you learn from that struggles, it takes awhile, you know, it doesn't happen over night. you have to keep building the pressure and you have to keep transferring it. but my, my alma mater harvard, did divest in fossil fuels or is beginning that process. no such luck for a long time on south africa. you know, and so you see changes happening and i, and you know, i, i, i have to taken a lot of good heart from the privilege of my experience with, with, with south african a and see. and the, and the, and the movement there. so take heart takes awhile, maybe the one last thing of that is the critical importance of ensuring that our systems to the fossil fuel in the sea and other industries that have driving us to climate destruction needs to be peaceful. i think that the are people in certain governments and in certain industries that are banking on the anger and the disappointment that young people and other

you applied to harvard law school and got in.guy winds up in harvard law school. of course, how are you going to pay for that in comes tyler perry. he saw your story, right? >> for sure how did he contact you and what did he say. >> he just called me one day, still to this day i don't know how he got my number in the end he just basically said he was extremely proud of me. he said he was extremely proud of everything i have overcome and he would like to take some of that burden off my hands and my father's hands. >> steve: that is fantastic-know everybody is proud of you where your brother and dad work. so proud of the fact that you are about to graduate from harvard law school in a couple of weeks. but you have just like goodwill hunting you are now paying back. explain your program where you have raised $70,000 for essential liver the janitors and other support staff at harvard? >> yeah, essentially what had happened one day i was walking down the hall and i said hi to a custodian are you talking to me? yes how are you doing sh

david: so when you went to harvard this is good you went in 92? jane: yes that's right. david: were there lot of women in your class? jane: probably 24 or 25%. enough of us to cause trouble. david: you graduate from harvard business school and then you go to mckinsey? jane: yes, i did. david: why did you want to be a consultant? jane: question is why didn't i get back into banking? there weren't many women in banking like there were in business school. they wore suits with very big shoulder pads and they were more scary than the men. you remember the era. when i looked at the consulting in like partnerships. i think partnerships are great places to grow up, the apprenticeship model is wonderful global institution and firm and also it was quite strategic and what they're looking at. some of the issues to emanate but i thought i would have a chance of having a family a bit more predictability. david: so you did it for 10 years roughly? jane: 10 years. david: and you had two children in that time. you go to mckinsey, work your way up, become a partner. why did you decide to

what do we believe is the sociology of people in the graduate harvard. this is the way they should think. dylan mulvaney was able to openly mock women, openly take the spaces from women, get contracts from other women come all these sponsorships and nobody cared until suddenly dylan mulvaney traversed into a male space and it became unacceptable, why a question mark because men don't tolerate this level of lies the way women do. we respond emotionally and not rationally, we should have been the ones to put in end to dylan mulvaney but we didn't because we feel bad, should we feel bad for men that want to be women and mock us and put on lipstick and pigtails and call themselves a girl? i think not but woke culture says yes. >> as usual you've taken it to a much deeper and more profound level than i had thought through. in one sentence -- it's pretty amazing the battle of sexes has been won by men with the help of feminists. >> unfortunately once again, and have to rescue women from this terrible ideology taking place right now and i commend men for doing

and it was at harvard that schwab met henry kissinger. and kissinger being a little bit older than schwab, was, became a mentor to him. he was an engineering student, i actually already had his engineering doctorate, but he was an engineer. he was also interested in political science and economics. kissinger took a liking to him and not just because they both had a accent some sure. but he took a liking to him and kissinger's role at the time. he was very much a known as a rockefeller man. at that point, he was working for richard nixon, of course. but both nixon and kissinger were considered to be rockefeller people, agents of the rockefeller dynasty, if you well, and their goal was to expand beyond the united states and other parts of the world . that's what the trilateral commission became, they, they went into japan, japan and europe, and north america. 2 to try and influence economic policy around the world. they call it the new international economic order back in those days. and schwab being from europe and from germany at that poi

after you graduated from harvard law school in 1943, you joined the us military and joined a battalionng for the invasion of france. what are your key recollections of that time? i enlisted wherever i could get into the army and i was a buck private, the lowest rank you can get, assigned to be in the artillery battalion. in that capacity, we landed on the beaches of normandy. france was occupied by the germans. the only way to...move the war forward, get rid of the war, was defeat the germans. i sailed from lands end at the tip of england across to omaha beach, which was still... had been cleared by the time i got there a bit, but there were many soldiers in american uniform still lying in the sea face down. there were many armoured vehicles still in the water, and we had to push on from there into france and defeat them. i was with the artillery all the way. many battles on the way. and it was only when we got into the german occupied and germany itself that we began to encounter possible war crimes. as nazi atrocities were uncovered, you were transferred to a newly created war crimes

i then went to harvard. we didn't overlap but i took the class you teach now. i was a biology major. i was a nerdy science guy through college, and when i graduated i got into the world of biotech investing in the fall of 2007 before the 200 not only capitalism but the merger of capitalism. i did that for several years and for seven years, three years i told my boss as i was going to leave and go to yale because i had this image to be in political philosophy that i'd never scratched. it turns out that got me career mobility instead. they said you can have a portfolio, do it from yale and that's what i did. i spent three years there, met my wife, she was my next-door neighbor in mid to school. when i graduated i came back as an investor and realized i was more interested in getting hands-on involved in addressing some of the inefficiencies that i couldn't address as a bystander and investor. so i started a biotech company which i built from a 2014 to 2021. i served for seven years as the ceo and stepped down this january to give myself latitude to speak freely i