. >> reporter: anthony abraham jack is an assistant professor at the harvard education school of educatione privilege poor" how elite colleges are failing students. >> to understand students, you have to know where they come from. i. to know where a zip code can tell you where a child can end up. we need to make sure we understand not just the differences between student's test scores all that kind of stuff. we understand how inequality works and how it's localized in neighborhood schools. how is that related to george harvard middle school? a assistant principal saw me fooling around with my students and said you don't have a potential to become a harvardite. they create an award for the best student in the year 8th grade year because of things i did, she had to hand it to me. that moment stuck with me because i felt like there was a tally. if i didn't make it would be evidence that she was right. the fact that someone in public education is funded by a tax base that's hyper localized yet we know the way in which economic opportunity was highly racialized. we know the way segregation work

education. i know you dealt with this in montgomery county, harvard and many different places so what advice would you give k through phd for kids in school? >> go to the meetings of the board of education and make a pest of yourself. ask tough questions. my wife doesn't like to come with me to meetings, you have to ask why are you spending money on such things as cultural response teaching which the proof that it works and yet you are spending hundreds of thousands of dollars that could be spent on books or computers and so forth. on the policy recommendations i give in my book, ways to get the government out of a category creation business, government bureaucrats announced not anthropologists or biologists, creating categories and the second one which is a corollary, to get out of benefits for people to adhere to this category. once we stop this, affirmative action which is racial preference is unconstitutional and is running out of time. senator o'connor said we would approve this for 25 years. that is coming up soon in eight years but next time, chinese and indian americans, next time it comes before the court this is clearly a violation of the equality under the law. >> parents should be involved in their children's schools and go to school board meetings and look at the curriculum. one thing that is important is don't underestimate how damaging identity politics can be for young children when you find identity politics in the schools. there is nothing worse you can tell a young child than you cannot succeed because of your skin color or sexual identity or whichever identity category you prefer. in the 1990s, self-esteem went too extreme, we told kids they could do whatever they want, they are always wonderful, they got participation trophies and a plus on every assignment and now it is in the opposite direction, we tell half the population you will not succeed, more than half the population you will not succeed, you will not be able to do anything, give up, don't even try, the worst message, the opposite of what they should be doing. to teach us to grow, grow wisdom and tame our passions and make of us responsible people who can achieve. identity politics creep in, and identity categories, it can be profoundly damaged for your child's life. >> any parent comes across any idea that punctuality or hard work or use of reason are a function of white, go back to the teacher and say do not teach this poison to my son but this is racist stuff. you really have to stand up and say this is poison. what separates us is use of the reason so do not say it is a white thing. i can't believe we are saying this in 2020. fight against that really hard. >> there was an argument on twitter whether to close to actually equals 4 and people were serious about it. david from canada asked why did corporations and foundations fund this movement? what do they get out of it? people support it. >> great question for our neighbors to the north, america's hat. republican party in a practical partisan realm and the conservative movement made a big mistake for several decades which is in the deal to go after the ever expanding size and scope of government. we give corporate america of pass and they developed this reputation as promoters of corporate america. corporate america is the problem, more than any other group with the exception of education is leading this leftward lurch in america embracing identity politics and hurling us off the cliff with nonsense and oblivion. why are they doing it? corporations had one goal, to follow the almighty dollar and is much easier when you have concerted, contrived activist groups which are well-funded and highly organized as mike describes in the plot to change america. when you've got those highly motivated groups petition, threatening boycotts, making a couple dozen phone calls that would push corporate policy because they don't want to deal with it. they will save a little money in the long run. why not capitulate and we need to hold those corporations to account. there's been a debate since the rise of donald trump and over the last four years over globalism. corporations don't have much loyalty to the united states, they have transnational loyalty or in the case of the nda, more loyal to china than the united states and that is a big problem. i don't blame corporations for following

education, no experience but do very well financially over the course of their lives and we can have people who went to harvard business school worked at goldman sachs and done very well in terms of education and sophistication and end up bankrupt, there's no other field where the happens except for finance, no background, no experience can massively outperform with the best experience, ha happened to do wh how we think about money and the softer psychological side. charles: you take 19 stories and their different variety of stories and you put them in this book and we glean lessons from that, i know it's been generalized but is there something the majority of our viewers who are not in this market were not "making money" in the market and the doing incorrectly to have a better relationship with money then you describe. >> it's hard to get personal advice when you're talking to many people, one is universal that tends to be something they can do with their money and tends to make most people happy and when they're making decisions, is not for everyone and i tends to be fairly universal, giving yourself options, not to go out and buy stuff or buy a new house or car, i'm not against that but using your money to have money in the bank, savings which is what wealth is, being rich in going out and spending your money, being wealthy is having money in the bank that you have not spent, money you have not spent but sitting as an asset that will give you options, options in terms of when you can retire, where you can live, what company you work for, maybe you could pick up jobs in a shorter commute, things that make people happy most of the time enduring happiness which is going out and purchasing that doesn't tend to be getting used to overtime. charles: i gotta tell you, i got money in the bank but is burning hole in a pocket, i might be splitting the difference, your book sounds great, i let a lot of reviews, congratulations and will have this discussion real soon. meanwhile, the maker of fortnite and apple, we can call it a battle, the question is who will the victors be, we will give you details in more proof that michael jordan is the greatest ever, we'll be right back. or what's trending. get real-time insights in your customized view of the market. it's smarter trading technology for smarter trading decisions. fidelity. come on in, we're open. ♪ all we do is hand you the bag. simple. done. we adapt and we change. you know, you just figure it out. we've just been finding a way to keep on pushing. ♪ we've just been finding a wayapps except work.rywhere... why is that? 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maybe. the anticompetitive allegation is now a running scene, if you take that together now both case with the bloomberg report of the bundle services, apple might need to make changes to get back into regulators and developers but apple has also successfully defended itself in the past against such bad behavior allegations and look at the shares, $10 away from catapulting them to be a 2 trillion-dollar company, one other thing, you could see potential backlash from users because if this war or whatever you want to call it is not solved in two weeks, the new fortnite won't be accessible on apple devices. charles: i heckuva gambit, but they were prepared, to your point the pr blitz was amazing. thank you very much. on that note i want to bring in district media president, this is in your wheelhouse, before we even get to the winners of the week, i want to ask you, who do you think is going to be the winner between apple, google and fortnite. >> is going to depend what happens on august 27, that's when the season four of fortnite comes out and apple move users l not be able to access it. are these fans going to be so upset with epic games for making this decision or or he going to find that the fans understand the decision another companies are going to follow suit, follow epic games and put pressure on apple, i think it depends on if anyone joins epic games in all of this but i will say i love that ad, it is quite the ad. charles: it was a great ad but that was a pun on your part, give me a winner, epic news that they were going to be booted, they knew these guys were called down to congress recently, there's a pushback against big tech, they took a shot, you know right now in your heart of hearts, someone wanted some law today. >> i'm going to go with fortnite because they have such a big falling when it comes to the games, they clearly have a great ad in marketing campaign so i think people will follow fortnite and here's my help, here's what i'm going to say there's a lot of discussion, that the 1984 book, the classic, i'm hoping young people pick up the book and realize something they should pay attention to. charles: google is getting sued by epic in the winter because of something completely different, the wall street journal reported that they got very creative with artificial intelligence and it's helping these shifts in or because we exist, the technology allows it to detect whenever there is an orca because they use a detective system as the vessels get too close, everyone should read the story, your thoughts? >> i love this so much, one point on this, you have a company working with regional authority and were talking about a public partnership to figure out how to work with shifts and vessels and keeping marine life safe, this is what innovation leads to. charles: the biggest winner, one of the biggest winners of the week is one of the biggest winners of all time, michael jordan, he has 20 years, his sneakers are still flying off the shelf and footlocker reported the same-store sales are at 18 was present overwhelmingly michael jordan, they continue to sell, they did get a big bump in the resurgence, the documentary did very well but beverly, michael jordan, his unit as a standalone unit and nike and the only one with increased sales. >> you just mentioned the documentary was a huge boost, it was my favorite tv during the pandemic, people should walk watch it, here's the other reason i think it's a standoff, you talked a few weeks ago of having your meetings via zoom with staff even the people where the suit in the coat and the dress waist up, i think a lot of people arch in shorts and yoga pants and i think there waiting the jordan's were there. i think that's a reason for the bump in this. charles: i know whatever it is he has the magic touch. you have the magic touch two, i look forward to talking to you next week. >> thank you so much see you soon, president trump slamming biden for a national mask mandate, you heard how he did it, mask, pause, mandate, telling his challengers to stop playing politics, let's find out what dave thinks, he is next. joe biden's campaign releasing this ad in a handful of swing states following up on this demand for federal mask mandate for three months at a minimum, president trump pushback accusing his rival of playing politics and saying his administration is taking a different approach. take a listen. >> urged americans to wear masks and i emphasize that this is a patriotic thing to do, maybe they are great and maybe they are just good, maybe they are not so good but frankly, what do you have to lose, your nothing to lose. charles: joining me now fox nation host david webb, what do you make of this because while americans overwhelmingly believe we should be wearing masks certainly will become near each other and outside of our homes, the idea of a federal mandate does cause concerns for a lot of people. >> that would be a question to ask, how many americans out there want government determining what they do and don't do when you want government in your home even more, doctor marc siegel, we had this discussion on the radio, americans need to understand what types of masks exist, the three basic types coming up surgical on the 95, that is important, if you're out by yourself in your 3300 or whatever feet away from someone you will be enclosed space to protect herself from someone who might have it that would be a reason and we done this before we try to remind people to learn and understand with their effective and also wearing a mask inside your car when you're alone, it's bad for your health every asthmatic or something else, the president and the administration has been right on the guidance with this, we have to educateicans, i don't want government in my bedroom or in my business more than necessary and i want government out of how i decide to handle my personal healthcare as long as i'm responsible about it. >> i think that's why people are concerned an administration that would take something like this which seems like low hanging fruit but would be a segue into an intrusive government and other parts of your life that is not so obvious percent. >> look at what vice president, the soon to be nominee wants americans to do. they want to tell you what to do then you have to ask yourself a question, how do you afford it, who provides it, where does the mass come from, this is not low hanging, this is insulting low hanging, is a low expectation that americans cannot think for themselves and education campaign is a good idea, that is something you can do in partnership with the states. charles: i am less than a minute, i want to ask you about president trump talking about the police officers, what you e

educators on how to get children back into schools. part of that the idea of distance learning, remote learning came up. the head of the education and governance program at harvarduggesting that remote learning is not where it should be in terms of the ability to be able to keep kids engaged and actually he had case them. which led the president to equip about joe biden. listen here. >> we have learned through this covid crisis that we haven't got digital learning to the point where you can really engage young people. >> so if you are a presidential candidate and you are sitting in a basement and you are looking at a computer, that's not a good thing? >> we're likely going to hear more from the president at 5:30 this afternoon as well as on coronavirus. neil, a little bit of news that's popped in the last little while on negotiations or the lack thereof between the white house and democrats in congress on a coronavirus relief bill, apparently steven mnuchin the treasury secretary made an overture early year today to nancy pelosi saying hey maybe we should talk more about this. nancy pelosi and chuck schumer basically threw him under the bulls after that in a sta