charles blow and juanita tolliver, a harvard fellow. the thing oppression does not have to win. and it doesn't. it never wins in the end. i appreciate all the conversation about what politicians are doing, but this resistance to this has to come from the street. it has to come from people, individual people not in washington, economic and political. and at a certain point, people get their backbone. they'll get their bearings and they will resist. >> amen. amen. amen. all right. juanita. besides this amazing book which i need you to sign for me. who won the week? the spirit of shirley chisholm. besides that, who won the week? >> the metropolitan ame church in washington, d.c. won the week. and it's for a karmic reason you wouldn't expect. the church was awarded the rights and trademark to the extremist white supremacist group, the proud boys, and i think that's something that's karmic, considering that people like ida b wells and frederick douglass attended services at this church. >> i love this, and it makes me so happy. and we're goi

spent the last ten years there and have just i'm ninth day into my retirement and am a fellow this year at the harvard radcliffe institute. and i'm delighted to be in this cambridge. i'm delighted to have an opportunity to talk with maurice about this wonderful book he has written. we go back decades, although we have not seen each other, we're trying to figure this out in maybe 20 years. that's what happens when you get old. you have good friends who you don't see for 20 years, but we were immortalized together in 1985 when i after i wrote a very critical review of a disciple, theodore draper, who was then one of the most prominent historians of american and a very critical historian of american communism. and i was very critical of his disciples book. and that prompted him to attack us as new historians of american communism in pages of the new york review of books i think i got attacked after publishing what was in effect my first article and it was a moment where we were bonded in a way because we were trying to understand a topic. we felt we hadn't understood or that other people had not done jus

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