it's changed intent much you know he is someone that you know when we met at harvard law school you know i can come straight from brown university in my early twenty's he was almost thirty deciding to come back to school to go to grad school so i and i looked up to him and not just because he's taller than me how done because he you know he has a say he had a sense of purpose and a gravitas even then and and he's still the same you know if you're there at the white house with him the one thing that i think people don't see enough evidence in that it's part of function of the office is a sense of humor saw the same sense of humor if they're hanging out with him he still be joking to be real so put true deal as a as a kind of a loner it's not a schmoozer he's not a guy he doesn't glad hand right he doesn't play congo. well fair criticism well you know i don't know if that's a that's a critique or his attempt to show that you don't to to get things accomplished you don't have to do a lot of favors and it doesn't have to be a quid pro quo situation whether someone thinks that's great strateg

it's changed that much you know he is someone that you know when we met at harvard law school you know i can come straight from brown university in my early twenty's he was almost thirty deciding to come back to school to go to grad school so i and i looked up to him and not just because he's taller than me how done because he you know he has a say he had a sense of purpose and a gravitas even then and and he's still the same you know if you're there at the white house with him the one thing that i think people don't see enough evidence in that it's part of function of the office is a sense of humor saw the same sense of humor if they're hanging out with him he'd still be joking and be real also put through deal as a as a kind of a loner it's not a schmoozer he's not a guy he doesn't glad hand he doesn't. play congress well fair criticism well you know i don't know if that's a that's a critique or his attempt to show that you don't to to get things accomplished you don't have to do a lot of favors and it doesn't have to be a quid pro quo situation whether someone thinks that's a great

he received an advocacy fellowship and named a public interest fellow by harvard law school. next we have maurice call well. he was convicted in the housing project here in san francisco. there was no physical evidence linking him to the crime yet he was still convicted based on the false testimony of a single neighbor. he was sentence to life behind bars. in prison mr. colwell contacted the center for help and located two witnesses who saw the murder and said mr. colwell was not involved in anyway. they located the real killer who confessed and he committed the murder. that man is serving a life sentence for a subsequent murder . on march 28, 2011 after more than 20 years in prison, maurice colwell is free. thank you for being here. [ applause ] linda star is the legal and cofounding in the santa clara law, law center clerk received her ph.d.. she wrote and argued post conviction matters in state and federal court and supervisor in the sex crimes unit. she worked as a staff attorney in the 56 appellate court and now works on appeals. from a prosecutor to now an defender. wel

joining me to talk about this, charles ogletree of harvard law school. noah feldman of feldman of harvard law school and dan abrams, a lawyer at abc news. >> people feel something went wrong with the system, and that may be lack of sophistication with criminal trials and the burden going forward and the fact that the defense did a good job in a sense of putting trayvon martin on trial, which he should not be on trial, he is the victim in this case. >> but in reality that is what happened. and i don't criticize the defense lawyers for doing what they did, they d

later we'll be joined by jochai benkler of harvard law school. he was a witness for the defense in bradley manning's trial. i am pleased to have all of them here and those coming. i will begin with phil mudd in memphis. what's your assessment of this verdict? >> i think the verdict is pretty predictable. the interesting piece of this to me is what he was not convicted of, that is aiding and abetting the enemy. when i look at this, my response having grown up in the c.i.a., if i wanted to give out information like this when i grew up in the c.i.a., it was given to the russians or the soaf bloc. you now have a third way. it's not the americans. it's not the russians. you give it to society generally and there is 100 million people out there saying you did the right thing, bradley manning. that to me is fascinating. >> rose: amy? >> i could always in some way put something in the newspaper. it's true when you publish something the whole world might see it, but that's why there are laws against releasing classified information, and that's why he was

joining us from boston, harvard law school professor charles ogle tree.ssor ogle tree, i'd like to go to you first. we spoke on friday night about this, and in the days since i've been actually quite happy at the reaction from some in the conservative and republican circles about the need to have a broader conversation about race. my question to you is, where does the country go from here? the president did not exactly outline a path and i wonder as you've thought about this in the days since where do you think we need to go nationally? >> i've been thinking about this a long time, alex. i'm glad that the president at least said let's have a conversation on race. we are a divided nation and i think that is a problem. i think what we need to do is have these local community meetings talk about race. bring not just your friends but people who you may view as your enemies who don't want to have this conversation because it has to be had everywhere. let me tell you why. juror b37 made some very profound comments about the jury's verdict in the trayvon martin

and scalia, who made the original comment about harvard went to harvard law school. and tony is right that justice thomas has a i hate yale but starting to like yale a little bit more the alma mater. recently along the lines justice kagen was speaking and she happened to make a joke eat the ivy. she referred to the fact that the justice ginsburg started harvard law school and went to colombia and moved to new york city her husband was getting a job. then there was justice ginsburg slumming at colombia. it was purely a expwroak. this is what we're talking about. if anybody is going to take a step up the harvard and yale path it's going to be colombia. >> thomas on did he or didn't he speak. one of the reasons justices say they would rather not have cameras in the court it would put the focus on trivial incidents could get played up on john stewart. take the most trivial thing. i think it's a good example of something the most trivial thing became the sort of story of the day. did he try to speak. did he actually say anything? did any words come out? it seemed like a m

joining me to talk about this, charles ogletree of harvard law school. noah feldman of feldman of harvard law school and dan abrams, a lawyer at abc news. >> people feel something went wrong with the system, and that may be lack of sophistication with criminal trials and the burden going forward and the fact that the defense did a good job in a sense of putting trayvon martin on trial, which he should not be on trial, he is the victim in this case. >> but in reality that is what happened. and i don't criticize the defense lawyers for doing what they did, they did their job, and i do criticize the prosecutors, because i thought they could have done a better job and had a stronger case an it didn't show up at all in this trial. >> rose: we continue with the conversation about the world of david rockwell, who does many things, including designing theatre sets. >> what theatre introduced to me, and i think, in fact, it brings it toáé@i architecture projects, is an understanding of portability, an understanding of flexibility, the interest in crafting the mom

activist and close friend of president obama hill harper hill and president obama attended harvard law school at the same time.

bankroller here shaping up to be a key witness and to tell you a little bit about him he is a harvard law school professor peter cook teaches communication law intellectual law has done extensive research on the wiki leaks organization the history of the wiki leaks organization and really spoke about what this organization is all about because you've got to remember that the prosecution is alleging that manning aided the enemy this most serious charge of aiding the enemy and the way he did that was handing over information classified information hundreds of thousands of documents to the whistleblower whistleblower web site wiki leaks the prosecution is saying when manning did that he knowingly aided the enemy by putting the information on the internet for the enemy to see now what this witness did today was kind of talk about the credibility of wiki leaks he said that before this document dump before bradley manning released these war logs wiki leaks was considered a legitimate organization they partnered with the traditional outlets like the new york times like the guardian but after these leak

arguments the wiki leaks defense team laid out last week the defense star's defense of star witness harvard law school professor bank lawyer argued that wiki leaks was only seen as aiding terrorists like al qaeda because the u.s. government vilified the transparency organization now the government will have to reply to that claim we have a correspondent on the ground in fort meade as so we will bring you the latest as the story continues to update let's turn now to egypt a country that is treading through some very trauma choice waterers as the military attempts to restore order in the country on sunday military general abdel fatah all sisi addressed the country to justify his decision to move deposed president mohamed morsy from power morsi and members of his cabinet are now being detained at an undisclosed location and have not been hit hurts from since his ousting the while the u.s. has sent its first diplomat to visit the country since the protests began deputy sheriff deputy secretary of state william j. burns held meetings today with egyptian egypt's interim president adly long sore burns also p

harvard law school professor renowned for his work and published articles on internet freedom and how a free press of facts democracy he's done extensive research on the history of wiki leaks when it first emerged he said wiki leaks was respected by traditional media but after manning's leaks he said government rhetoric associated the website with terrorism bangalore testified that the media's tone toward wiki leaks changed specifically citing this claim on fox news this guy is a traitor a treasonous and he has broken every law of the united states the guy ought to be shot i'm not for the death penalty so if i'm not for the death i don't want to do it illegally shoot the shot of a despite the attacks benker said wiki leaks plays a critical role in the media today supporters at the trial called dangler again changer it's too dangerous to convict someone of just giving documents to a news organization to criminalize that is something akin to treason and so i think that testimony really covered their central argument that manning did not take the stand in the trial after the defense rest

when i accused her of misconduct early in the case, she complained to the dean of harvard law school, and asked that i be disciplined for criticizing her. just the other day, she fired one of her people because he blew the whistle on her misconduct. so she has engaged in this kind of tyrannical suppression of criticism against her, you know, and every american is in danger when we have prosecutors like her who don't een brought in any country. they never even would have brought charges. it was such an obvious case f self defense, and there was obvious reasonable doubt. and the only reason this case ever came in front of a jury was because of political pressures that were brought by groups of people who were dissatisfied with the first investigation and with the fact that a responsible prosecutor and responsible police force decided there was reasonable doubt, and that the state could not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that george zimmerman did not engage in classic self defense. >> alan, appreciate hearing from you. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >>> lis wheel and recommend ee

scalia went to harvard law school. justice thomas has this complicated i hate yale, his alma mater. justice kagan was speaking at a synagogue and she happened to make some jokes about all of the ivy's and referred to the joke that justice ginsburg started at harvard and transferred to and then she says there was justice ginsburg just slumming at columbia. she worries that some people took offense. it was a joke, obviously. this is what we are talking about. if anyone is going to take a step over the harvard and yale >>th, it would be columbia. one of the reasons the justices say they would rather not have cameras in the court is because the focus on trivial incidents that will get played up on jon stewart. take the most trivial thing. this is a good example. it was the most trivial thing that became the story of the day. did he try to speak? did he say anything? did any words come out? [laughter] it seem like a modern matter. >> you talk about questioning something that has happened that they all sort of talk about, but there are a lot more questions asked and rapid-fire lawyers who

she managed to eventually graduate from harvard law school and served in the texas senate.nate that she hasn't learned from her own example that every life has to give a full potential and every life matters. >> john: it had a lot resonance with people that share his views. they his remarks are insulting to women and that is why they should be involved? >> and i made a choice. that is what i want for every woman. i think she is star. she is an instant folk hero. anybody can stand on their feet for 13 hours gets to be that. she is star. but in terms of the abortion debate, in the short term, she is going to lose. i agree with kim, when republicans talk about sert social issues they lose. but on issue of abortion late term abortions they or solid ground but they can keep this to narrow focus on that part of abortion rights then they win. but in general the war on women, condescending to wendy davis i think it goes back. >> john: big decision of the week, we definitely want to get to is voting rights, when you strike down section four of the voting rights and leave section fiv

she manage managed to eventualy graduate from harvard law school and serve in the texas senate. it is just unfortunate that she hasn't learned from her own example that every life must be given a chance to realize its full potential and that every life matters. >> john: your comments were very popular among the audience in attendance but even republican house speaker joe strauss took exception. he said when perry crosses the line into the personal he damages himself and he damages the republican party. in hindsight, do you regret your comments and think that in you decide to run for president again in 2016 that those comments could hurt you with independent women? >> actually those comments were meant to be a compliment to her for what she had accomplished in her life and you think about where she came from and what she has accomplished and, as a matter of fact, i would think that she is very proud of that as well. my point was that saving a life and leting that life come to its fulfillment and all of the good things that happen you never know when who is going to be considered

she managed to eventually graduate from harvard law school. and serve in the texas senate. it's just unfortunate that she hasn't learned from her own example that every life must be given a chance to realize its full potential, and that every life matters. >> your comments, governor, were very popular among the audience in attendance, but even republican house speaker took, he said he damages himself and damages the republican party. do you think that those comments could hurt you with independent women? >> actually, those comments were meant to be a compliment to her for what she had accomplished in her life, and you think about where she came from, what she's accomplished. and as a matter of fact, i would think that she's very proud of that as well. my point was that saving a life and letting that life come to its fulfillment and all the good things that happened, you never know when who's going to be considered to be an extraordinary individual who's going to make that real impact and life. and that was our point thatty were making, and nothing else. nothing more. >> so.

and this was because regardless of whether a man was a graduate of harvard law school as some african-americanshe was a share cropper in alabama with a second grade education, he was swept into the same brutally segregated american military. so there was no way that the new yorker could claim that that was a problem in the south. and there was no way that the poor southerners could say this was a problem of the bourgeois northerns. all african-americans were united with the struggle to desegregate america's military. >> give me an example. blacks that fought in world war i were in segregated barracks and segregated units. how was it different in world wore two? >> well, world war ii unfortunately it was very much of the same, which one big exception, and that is that there were more african-american officers during world war two. this is a direct result of the struggle that took place in world war i. the first chip away at the block was getting congress and the war department and the woodrow wilson administration to agree to commission african-american officers in the united states army. and th

. >> she was a teenage mother herselfs and managed to graduate from harvard law school and serve in the texas senate. it is just unfortunate that she hasn't learned from her own example that every life must be given a chance to realize its full potential and that every life matters. >> the comments were popular among the audience in attendance but even republican house speaker took exception to what you said and i quote, "when perry processed the line into the personal he damaged himself and he damages the republican party." in behind site do you regret your comments in do you think if you decided to run for president again in 2016, those comments could hurt you with independent women? >> guest: that was meant as a compliment to her when you think of where she came from and what she accomplished i would think she is very proud of that, as well. my point was saving a live and letting that live come to its fulfillment and all the good things that happen, you never know who is going to be considered to be an extraordinary individual and who will make that real impact in life. that was our

entrepreneurial legal studies and a co-director of the berkman center for internet and society at harvard law school. thanks for being here. >> my pleasure. >> so you've written a lot about this. one of the things that concerns people here was not only the leaks and the nature of them, which we just heard the report from the pentagon, but a very new and very extreme precedent that the government was trying to set that would basically treat a leak to be the media, a leak to "the new york times" or nbc news as equivalent to not only wikileaks but to leaking or working with the enemy. tell us about that and your legal analysis of that and what today's verdict tells us. >> you're absolutely right, ari. that's exactly what was so dangerous about that issue. that's exactly what was so threatening about the article 104, aiding the enemy charge. essentially aiding the enemy includes not only helping but communicating with with the enemy. it includes not only communicating directly but communicating indirectly. what the prosecution tried to do was basically say manning gave the wikileaks, wikileaks put onlin

she managed to eventually graduate from harvard law school and serve in the texas senate.just unfortunate that she hasn't learned from her own example that every life must be given a chance to realize its full potential and that every life matters. >> you don't accept the notion that while he was certainly dils agreeing with you he was holding up your life story in a way to co compliment you. >> david, my life story is something that obviously belongs to me very personally. and the fact of the matter is that i had choices and chances and opportunities that were provided to me based on the way i was able to direct my own decisionmaking. and what i'm working to fight for is to make sure that all women have are the ability to do that. i think some of the comments that he made really demeaned the high office that he holds, and i think that's why we saw such a strong reaction to it. >> senator davis, thank you very much for your time this morning. i appreciate it. back to our roundtable. just a couple minutes left. pete williams, one of the things we talked about this week is w

. >> joining us now, charles ogletree, senior adviser to president obama and a harvard law school professorresident and mrs. obama. professor ogletree is also author of "the presumption of guilt." and mark thompson, host of "make it plain" on sirius xm radio. i'd like to bring in what "the new york times" editorial board has already written about the president's remarks today. the board writes the "in the narrow confines of the trial, all talks of race was excluded and the stand your ground element in florida's self-defense law was not invoked by mr. zimmerman's lawyers. in the broader more troubling aspect of mr. martin's death, race and florida's lax gun laws are inextricably interwoven." people who watched the trial were happy the president brought up the two elements of the american judicial system that has racial elements. >> i've known president barack obama since he was a student at harvard. a quarter of a century since 1998. today for the first time he unequivocally and completely embraced the black community. i'm not saying only the black community, but there was something profound

and this was because regardless of whether a man was a graduate of harvard law school as some african-americanshe was a share cropper in alabama with a second grade education, he was swept into the same brutally segregated american military. so there was no way that the new yorker could claim that that was a problem in the south. and there was no way that the poor southerners could say this was a problem of the bourgeois northerns. all african-americans were united with the struggle to desegregate america's military. >> give me an example. blacks that fought in world war i were in segregated barracks and segregated units. how was it different in world wore two? >> well, world war ii unfortunately it was very much of the same, which one big exception, and that is that there were more african-american officers during world war two. this is a direct result of the struggle that took place in world war i. the first chip away at the blob was getting congress and the war department and the woodrow wilson administration to agree to commission african-american officers in the united states army. and thi

same you will containously, going to harvard law school and i was a proctor, i live in the dorm. and aed divides students i was known as the stay in college proctor. and people were disaffected and wanting to go, to leave college. and i was the one better off to stay. when one of my be from men graduated and went to medical school and he had freshmen that wanted to leave. one could not talk them into staying. john asked me to talk to the young man. gates. bill gates. i talked to him. i talked to him. and he just kept on saying there is this thing that i want to do. and in frustration, i said. let the dope go. you know. [laughter] . i fought a good argument. if you are smart. will you make it smarter. and make the idea better? surrounded by the brightest young people in the country. and a good faculty? that this is something that i want to do on my own. good luck. never hear from you again. >> rich. your thoughts on this? >> well, i don't know of any mark snyder might. have an empirical evidence. that is a hard question to answer. this is a world where there is risks associated wi

new hampshire, kenneth mac, who specializes in civil rights history, and race relations at harvard law schoolorge chancy a historian at yale university who has written widely on the gay rights movement and served as an expert witness in the same-sex marriage cases decided last week, and presidential historian michael beschloss, and michael le let me ask you to set the frame for us to start off here. the supreme court in one week tackling major issues that resonate through american history. >> yes, you know, oftentimes you go through a week like this and there may be cases that are interesting now but not likely to be written about later on, the historian 50 years now if they are writing a general political history of the united states i think will be very hard for them to write about this period without writing about what happened last week, three cases particularly that do have to run all the way through american history. >> ken net mac did you see a broad theme in these cases either in the kind of issues they were tackling or in the out comes? .. >> yes, i agree with michael beschloss, that

she managed to eventually graduate from harvard law school and serve in the texas senate. it's just unfortunate that she hasn't learned from her own example, that every life must be given a chance to realize its full potential and that every life matters. >> what was your response to that? >> it was an unfortunate statement by the governor, and i really think that it demeaned the high office that he holds. i'm in elected office. i've been through some really tough campaigns and i have tough skin and it didn't upset me for me, but it upset me to see the calloused attitude that he had towards women who face these very, very tough choices and women like me who were very young perhaps when they experienced this challenge. i made a choice to raise my child and she's 30 years old and i'm so proud of her and so fortunate that i had the ability to make a choice and also had incredible opportunities in texas to lift myself up by my boot straps and move into a better life for myself and my daughter, but not every woman has the opportunities in front of her that i had and i think for