you applied to law school at harvard. you got into harvard law school. e class half women and half men or? [laughter] justice ginsburg: in those ancient days, i went to law school from 1956 to 1959. in my entering class at harvard law school, there were over 500 in the class. nine of us were women. a big jump from marty's class, he was a year ahead of me. there were five women in his class. and today, the harvard law school has about 50% women. [applause] david: in your harvard law school class, you did extremely well, and you got onto the harvard law review, and you were near the top of your class, maybe first or tied for first in your class. but then when your husband needed to move to new york, you wanted to transfer to columbia law school, and the dean of the harvard law school didn't think that was such a great idea, if you wanted to be a harvard graduate. is that correct? justice ginsburg: yes. he said i had to spend my third year at harvard. the reason i didn't was marty was diagnosed with a testicular tumor in his third year of law school. those w

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law professor at harvard and you taught me family law. you were to go on from being a lowly assistant professor to a storied career not culminating but you were the dean of harvard law school. when i knew you you are my favorite law professor. i'm not alone and that. in 2008 the junior senator from illinois was a man named barack obama and he said when i was at harvard law school i had a teacher who changed my life, martha minow. >> guest: it's a delight to be here and i learned so much from you through the year so thank you for doingng that. >> host: i couldn't pass the opportunity up. i love the book because it has your voice. it's compassionate, to brilliant and it's wise, it's grounded and it's definitely provocative. how did you come into this legendary career from access to the highest bar of the legalry power to writing a book about forgiveness? >> guest: i wrote a book about 20 years ago about mass violence and at that time the nsreconciliation commission in south africa had just started and i was so intrigued by the development of a new legal institution toi deal with realy horrific violence and oppression and therefore the book and i called it finding an alternat

i became aware of those issues at harvard law school? > host: also at harvard law school you discovered a number theme that would be a liberal bias in academia that i think also helped drive donald trump selection along with other stories like the va scandal that you mentioned. i really do think if you were to read this book especially if you have the polling kale problem allegedly said she didn't know anybody who voted for nixon. if you were in that camp is donald trump this book would definitely help you understand. what was happening that would make people frustrated or angry around america that you may be insulated if you've had a fairly prosperous life. one of them is health care which is the story that is personally touched you. >> guest: that's right. i opened up about my story a little bit in the book. >> host: what you tell us of that about it. >> guest: i plan those words carefully. it's hard to tell your own story and to tell the stories of others but my own story. puts me in an 84% chance of breast cancer for lifetime. i was j

taken chances, i was able to go on and earn a scholarship to yell college and graduate from harvard law school. in the book talks about, i believe when you're a person of three generations that have worked to give opportunities to, all the effort and care has gone into making you who you are, you're under no obligation to pay forward, i returned to kentucky and i came back and i worked with low-income women in domestic violence situations trying to provide other families another women's with the same opportunities i was been provided by my family. so i have another excerpt that i want to read from the book that plays on that theme, it is about my mother going to college. >> when i was five, my mother graduated from college. i remember getting a new dress for the occasion. the first diet owned that that was not paid c. it had lace trim and a delicate flower. my mother bought me a child size graduation cap and gown and let me walk with her in the processional. we are graduating i told my family as we walked past them down the aisle. i did not know then how true that statement was. how by graduat

there is a wealth gap between white and people of color but last year i gave a talk at harvard law school and i was amazed at the racial variety that i saw in the law school because they are all concerned about changing the seal of harvard law school. so i think there are a lot of ways to skin a cat and in california and in michigan that will continue to happen. >> and through public universities i'm not convinced despite theac with their own privilege makes the not want to touch it. >> this is the case right now. the state universities are working two cases one was the michigan law school case and the other why is the fisher case and both of those the court upheld diverse city as a governmental interest. so asian-american students are not counted as a minority. when california was doing things among those minorities asian americans were not listed. i don't know what will happen to the harvard case except i think it will go up. once it is there you are right. >> i would think the beneficiaries frankly. >> there is a black woman attorney who wrote the op-ed in the "washington post" that i

the man at the center of that case, william henry lewis was morgan's classmate at harvard law school. a gifted scholar athlete who went on to coach football. his inability to get a haircut at a white-owned barbershop led the protests. lewis answered trotter's calls when the guardian editor calls on them to defend rogers in court. unfortunately for monroe rogers, conservative racial accommodation triumphed over radical black demands for his protection. on august 30th, 1902,s at attorney general reviewed the rit, brockton police officers who were supposed to transport rogers from boston instead put him on a train back to north carolina. there he stood trial for arson and attempted murder despite lacking an attorney and even though the white man whose barn he supposedly burned failed to testify. rogers was ordered to solitary confinement in the state penitentiary for 15 years minimum and died of septic pneumonia four years later in 1906. although rogers was not saved by trotter, the guardian or grass roots protests, the shift in the consciousness that trotter and the guardian helped fome

morgan for instance graduated from harvard college to harvard law school where he befriended another of trotter's friends w.e.b. dubois from the unities prize. morgan and trotter rallied their fellow students around protests against segregated barbershops in the 1890s which led to massachusetts civil rights legislation. the black man at the center of that case william henry lewis was morgan's classmate at harvard law school. a graduate of williams college and a scholar athlete who went on to coach football at harvard, lewis's inability to get a haircut at a white owned barbershop during commencement exercises prompted lewis and trotter's first civil rights protest. as an attorney elected to the cambridge common household in the state legislature lewis answered trotter's call when the guardian editor called on boston's small yet significant class of black attorneys to defend rogers in court. unfortunately for monroe rogers, conservative racial accommodation triumphed over radical black demand for his protection . on august 30 1802 at the attorney the writ, police officers who were sup

he saved up his pennies attending cal poly as an undergrad to achieve his dream of attending harvard law school. which he did and graduated first in his class. [applause] janie is every bit as special. her family escaped communis communism, czechoslovakia she came here managed to go to harvard got degrees in statistics and physics and then racked her way through harvard law school just like david and clerked for both me and justice so the mayor. - - soto my your those are the people for whom i write this book and i get to work with and give me hope for the future? >> the judge's role in the constitution and they are very simple. if you do these two things we will get along just fine this year. i don't care how you come dressed to work for the hours i would like to see you from time to time. but just to rules. first, please, don't make anything up. just follow the law as faithfully as you can. that is the judges job so help me with that. that's hard enough figuring out what the law is a what the words on the page mean in the original meaning what it was and to apply it to the circumstance. rule

neither of you advertises the fact that you both went to harvard law school, about which i know only that you can't graduate unless you've completed constitutional law. so tell me, jeremy, when the president says the president has total power, is that correct? >> of course not, and actually ron knows this even better than i do. we both took professor tribe's con law class. but it really goes back to runnymede. it really goes back to the magna carta. it goes back to the foundations of the american constitutional system. we declared in our constitution that no person is above the law. in fact, owing to that tradition, it says that the monarch, the king, the ruler of the nation should be below the law. and so in supreme court case after supreme court case, the justices have said that the president is subject to the law. there is something called judicial review. that's marbury v. madison. even in the modern era, if you look at cases coming after 9/11 when the president tried to assert plenary authority over issues of national security, the court said no. the court said that the president

she will be joined in conversation this evening by the clinical instructor at from harvard law school where they teach students how to work technology and then those critiques covering topics such as facial recognition computer security and tonight we will discuss her new book calling it a poetic and empathetic history of the internet that will resonate deeply with anyone. to listen and learn not shout and grandstand. tracing the commercialization of the digital world in incite full ways for what has been stolen will be recovered we are pleased to host this book event here welcome to joann. [applause] >> to start i will stand up. it is a short passage but maybe it will make you smile a little bit this is a chapter called sharing. around the time from the launch in 2007 it is possible to talk about apple as the underdog to adopt the corporations own narrative of 1984 inspired super bowl commercial featuring a blonde racing through with a sledgehammer. apple had 367 and then ten years later between berkshire hathaway and exxon mobil with the iphone apple was off to the races but only fo

school for a poetic computation. they have appeared in publications such as the new york times. she will be joined in conversation by a clinical instructor and lecturer on law at harvard law school when they teach tubes to practice technology law, there are critiques, technology and law. covering topics like facial recognition, computer security, online harassment, they will discuss joann's new book "lurking: how a person became a user," and incisive history of the internet that will resonate deeply with anyone who goes online to listen and learn, not shout and grandstand was never cynical more reductive, she faces the commercialization of the digital world, in an unexpected and insightful way, revealing what has been lost, what has been stolen and what impossibilities may still be regarded as workers of the world unite. we are pleased to host this event, please join me in welcoming joanne mcneil and kendra albert. [applause] >> i have a brief reading. should i read their? it is a short passage. i will give you a sense of the style of the book, this is a chapter called sharing. around the time of its first iphone launch - sorry. around the time of its first smartphone

all of you went to yale or harvard law school. and most of you went to ivy league undergraduate. princeton was a big part of it. so, there's not much diversity in that respect on the court now. is that anything that you think has an impact or -- >> some high courts, canada's high court has proportional -- geographical representation. so, a certain number of justices come from the west coast provinces provinces. we don't do that. in fact, there was one state that it was vastly overrepresented, and that was arizona, because there was chief justice rehnquist and justice o'connor. population of arizona is not -- >> until justice scalia passed away, there were four of you from the five boroughs of new york city. >> so, we were diverse. the only thing we were missing was staten island. >> i'm sure the president, if he had an opportunity, whoever the president was, would have been looking for someone 50 years old from harvard and staten island. >> there's quite a few of them, by the way. >> should that matter? there was a time earlier in our history when there were certain geographic ar

she will be joined in conversation by kendra albert, a lecturer on law at harvard law school where theypracticed law, their work reflects on technology and law covering topics like facial recognition, computer secure, online reaction and tonight they are going to discuss "lurking: how a person became a user". a poetic, empathetic and incisive history of the internet that will resonate with anyone who goes online to listen and learn, not shout. joanne mcneil traces it in playful ways revealing what has been lost, what has been stolen and what utopian possibilities may still be recovered. lurkers of the world unite. we are pleased to host this event at harvard bookstore, please join me in welcoming joanne mcneil and kendra albert. [applause] >> to start i have a brief reading. i will stand up. just a short passage that will give you a sense of the style of the book, this is an issue after called sharing. at the time of the first iphone launch - sorry. around the time of its first smartphone launch in 2007 it was possible if unwise to talk about apple as an underdog, and adopt their own na

she settled at harvard not long after that became the dean of harvard law school. she became associate justice of the supreme court. judge paul engle meyer at the far end. you came on the court in 2011 in the southern district. he went to harvard and to harvard for law school as well. he was in private practice before going on the bench. professor randall kennedy. he was a road scholar, a graduate of yale law school. he clerked for judge scully right on the d.c. circuit. he joined in 1984 and has been a very productive and prolific author of books. remarkably, while other colleagues write articles, he is writing books. is the most grandiose member of the american academy of arts and sciences and the american association of philosophical. we have four marshall clark's including myself. all of us like virtually all of our other alumni of justice marshall's chambers, i think we are very much affected in our careers and in our lives by the experience of having been in his chambers and in close contact with him for a year. we are going to reminisce a little bit if that i

she will be joining conversation this evening by kendra, the clinical instructor at harvard law school to teach students out of practice pickles you law. the work reflects on technology and covering topics facial recognition computer security, and online harassment. tonight were going to discuss joanne's new book, it's called a poetic and internet or that will resonate deeply with anyone. never cynical, commercialization of the digital world and insightful ways. revealing what has been stolen and what possibilities may be recovered. the world unites, in this book. please to host this event here. please join me in welcoming joanne and kendra. [applause]. joanne: i have a really brief reading that i wanted to do. [background sounds]. here's a short passage. this is in a chapter called sharing. around the time of the first iphone launch, in 2007, it was possible if unwise to talk about the underdog. an appropriation own narrative. a holdover since estate inspired and tomorrow commercial featuring yvonne racing to attack his brother with a sledgehammer. in 2007, apple was right here 67 of

law school. lived in the same dorm floor. i can tell you the back in the day at harvard, if you are a rockefeller republican, you are treated as if you work to the right of the hunt. ryan in law school was actually to the right of the hunt. [laughter]. i say that, actually more libertarian but very journaling conservative journals. wherefore senator john cornyn of texas. so this is a very long way of asking him and as a member of the vast right-wing conspiracy write a book "the conservative case for class action". brian: thank you for that kind introduction. the reason that i think conservatives should support class actions is because we have to ask ourselves what the alternative is. in the alternative was told to us and a brief filed by the united states chamber of commerce and 2010. in this brief really is what inspired me to write the book that you have in front of you today. it is called at&t and sub joan. i suspect many of you know about this case. the question was our class action flavors that are embedded in arbitration agreements are the enforceable. in the u.s. supreme court said yes. my own boss justice and the court

she'll be joined in conversation this evening with kendra alberta clinical instructor at harvard law school where they keep school at a practice technology law by working with pro bono clients. covering topics such as facial recognition, on online harassment and freedom of expression tonight they're going to discuss joanne "lurking". old resonate deeply with anyone who goes online and learned not shouting grandstand. never cynical joanne mcneil trayce insightful ways. for what has been and what has been stolen and what utopian possibilities might still be discovered. we are so pleased to host this event here at harvard bookstore tonight, please welcome me joining joanne mcneil and kendra alberts. [applause] i thought to start i have a really brief reading i'd like to do? should i read there? or here? or see that it's up to you. smack i will stand up it's just a short passage but it will give you a sense of the style of the book. this is in a chapter called sharing. around the time of its first iphone launch -- sorry, around the time of its first smart phone launch into thousand seven, it wa

we can't get a better legal read on this and now i'm very sure it's constitutional scholar harvard law school professor emeritus and best selling or there is no us book is guilt by association the challenge of proving innocence in the age of need to well as get right to our no one knows whether the new or the 10 other man whose rights. well it's a very complicated issue 1st of all larry thanks for having me on and name my book by accusation accusation because the basis of the book is you're guilty if you're just accuse then i've made available how they breathe on kindle use it guilt by association which allow people to say it's simple but it's guilt by accusation now let's get to the 10th amendment business question that end of the 10th amendment the framers of our bill of rights said that any powers not specifically given to the federal government are reserved to the states the people that suggest the division of power and our system of federalism both governors have power presidents have power if there is a conflict and if the constitution or authorizes the federal government to act then un

joining conversation this evening by kendra alber, clinical instructor and lecturer on law at harvard law school where they teach students how to practice technology law by work with pro bono clients. their work is on clinical -- facial recognition, computer security online harassment and freedom of expression. tonight they're going to discuss joanne's new book, lurking. it's called a poetic in incisive history of the internet that will resonate deeply with anyone who goes online to listen and learn. not shouting grandstand. never cynical nor deductive, mcneil has the commercialization of digital word it excite enter insightful ways. what has been stolen, what utopia possibilities might still be recovered. workers of the world unite or at least in this book. we are excited to host this event here please join me in welcoming joanne and kendra. [applause] so okay i thought to start have a really brief i wanted to do so social read they are here or stand up is up to you. so i will stand up is just a short passage that will give you this sense of the side of the book. this is in a chapter called sha

as michael mentioned, brian and i were classmates in law school and we lived in the same dorm floor and i can tell you that back in the day at harvard if you were a republican you are treated as if you were to the right of a telephone. brian in law school was to the right of attila the hun -- [laughter] i think brian is more libertarian but very sterling, conservative credentials but he clerked for justice glia and clerked for senator john cornyn of texas and is a stalwart of the federalist society. this is a long way of axing him how does a member of the vast right-wing conspiracy write a book in supply support of class action. [laughter] >> thank you for that kind introduction, judge lee. well, the reason i think conservatives should support class actions is because we have to ask ourselves what the alternative is. the alternative was told to us in an amicus brief filed by the united states chamber of commerce in which he tendered the amicus brief really is what inspired me to write the book that you have in front of you today. the case the supreme court called at&t [inaudible] i suspect many of you know about this case. the quest

of notre dame where he was runner-up valedictorian, but he made up for that when he went to harvard law school and one the diploma for being the top student to graduate in his class. he is -- [inaudible] >> a lot easier, a lot easier. and he has been a lawyer and a professor including backup for wild turkeys come vanderbilt panties off with this book, mexican poling case compelling case to class action mechanism. and are moderated today is judge on the ninth circuit. he is a graduate, a korean immigrant i should start with and came to this country and graduated from i believe cornell and it also harvard law school. you guys classmates? >> classmate. >> magna cum laude and worked at other large schools and was an associate counsel to judiciary committee of the city and recently appointed to the ninth circuit. so round of applause for judge kenneth lee. [applause] >> michael, thank you for the introduction. i think will have a great debate here. we have two experts on class actions. just a little bit of format. i will give professor fitzpatrick the floor and let them speak for about ten, 50 minu

taught at university of chicago law school and then after getting tenure there moved on and settled at harvard. not very long after that became the dean of harvard law school and then couldn't keep that job either and became associate -- solicitor general first and then associate justice of the supreme court. judge paul engelmayer is judge in the southern district of new york and has been since 2011. and i should have said, elena, you came on the court in 2010 -- >> mm-hmm. >> and paul went to harvard and to harvard for law school and clerked for judge wald on the d.c. circuit and then was in the solicitor office when drew days was solicitor general. pardon me. and then was in private practice before going on the bench. and professor randall kennedy, the middle to my left, who was a roa roads scholar and clerked for judge kelly wright and joined the harvard faculty in 1984 and has been a very productive prolific author of books, i think remarkably when most people of his colleagues are writing law review articles, he's writing books. and of particular interest, he is a member of the american a

professor at harvard and you taught me family law and you were to go on for being a lowly assistant professor to a storied career not culminating but along the way you were the dean of harvard law school but you are my favorite law professor. i'm not alone in that. in 2008 the junior senator from illinois was a man named barack obama and he said when i was at harvard will school i had a teacher who changed my life. >> guest: it is such a delight to be here and i have learned so much from you so thank you for doing this. >> host: i love the book because it has your voice, compassionate, brilliant, wise, grounded and provocative. how did you come during this legendary career from access to the highest legal power to writing a book about forgiveness? >> guest: i wrote a book about 20 years ago about responses to mass violence. at that time the affiliation commission in south africa had started and i was so intrigued by the development of a new legal institution to deal with really horrific violence and oppression. i wrote a book, finding an alternative to these two different responses of horrific acts and since that time people have said to me between why can't a lot itself forgive? it n

she will be joining conversation this evening by kendra, the clinical instructor at harvard law school to teach students out of practice pickles you law. the work reflects on

goldsmith is a professor at harvard law school, senior fellow at the hoover institute, the head of the office of legal counsel and george w. bush administration, but during this tenure he challenged the warrantless wiretapping program and withdrew the memos justifying the use of torture in the war against terrorism. he's also the author of terror presidency. so please, join me in welcoming to politics and prose jack goldsmith. [applause] stanek thank you very much to politics and prose for hosting this event. thanks to you all for coming out tonight even though there are serious competition in the democratic debatdemocratic deban baseball team that int know. i'm grateful that you came. so, my tale begins in june of 1975 when i was 12-years-old. i was living in west memphis arkansas and my mother in june of 75 married her third husband. his name was charles o'brien. my birth father wasn't a terribly good father, my otstepfather wasn't a good fath, so i really haven't had a good father figure in my life by the time i was 12-years-old. chuckie o'brien shows on the scene and they got marri

joining me now a distinguished fellow at harvard law school and executive chairman and founder of reputation.comtwo of the three of us in this conversation are immigrants to this country, so i'm going to kick it off with you. you and i for years have had a conversation about the degree immigration has been slanted in a way nobody else in the world has. canadians don't think about immigration this way, europeans don't think about immigration. americans think of immigrants as potential criminals and people who feed off the public dime. >> i think this is the closest thing the united states has had to a free lunch. it's what's made america economically strong. and what we're doing now isn't turning off the faucet. we're pouring bleach down the economy's throat. that's the effects of these stupid moves we're making in shutting off immigration. it doesn't make sense at all. >> michael, what's the real cost to it because the fact is you and vivek are both silicon valley oriented. what's the real cost to limiting immigration to the united states? >> hi, guys and goblets of america. the power that bring

former harvard law school dean is interviewed by former federal prosecutor about cases in which the law is forgiving. that's followed by debate of whether america's founders were influenced either religious beliefs. mark david hall author of did america have christian founding. >> you're watching a a special edition of booktv not airing during the week while members of congress are in the district due to the coronavirus pandemic. tonight, america at war. enjoy booktv now and over the weekend on c-span2. >> and now pleased to welcome scott adams and melissa king. [applause] do you have a gavel? is there a gavel? i just don't think it's official. >> it's not official. >> unless we have the gavel. >> i don't feel right. >> the way it's going to work with going to dive right in with questions. i'll read a littlen intro, and then will start the thing

lila fenwick, who in 1956 became the first black woman to graduate from harvard law school, has died from covid-19. she became a student at harvard in 1954 following the supreme court's historic ruling in brown v. board of education, joining the cohort as part of only a handful of women and the only black woman. she was 87 years old. renowned chilean author luis sepulveda, who in the 1980's fled the military dictatorship of augusto pinochet, has died from covid-19. sepulveda is celebrated for his literary work depicting life in south america. he was 70 yearars old. price news reports michigan's former governor rick snyder new about toxic lelevels of lead in flint water supply as early as 2014 -- some 16 months before he claimemed to have learned of the toxic lead contamination in a testimony to congress. usinglso found they were -- michigan has admitted the switch climbeded 12 laps but a s investigation found the true toll might be far highgher. and the state of alaska has put surgical abortions on a list of medical procedures that could be banned during the coronavivirus outbreak, c

introducing our intrepid interviewer, lawrence lessig, who is a professor of law and leadership at harvard law school previously having taught at both stanford law and the university of chicago. he's the founder of a group called equal citizens, a nonprofit with one very ambitious mission. basically, fixing our democracy by establishing truly equal citizenship. he's the cofounder of creative commons, a nonprofit that's devoted to expanding the range of creative works that's available for others to build upon and to share legally. basically this organization is a leader in the copy left, not the copyright -- [laughter] movement. and in addition to his law degree, larry has a master's in philosophy from the university of cambridge in england, and he has the distinction of clerking for two conservative justices. judge richard posener as a seventh circuit court of appeals in chicago and justice antonin scalia at the supreme court. larry is the author of ten books, he has a captivating presence on ted talks. if you haven't heard it, go on there and look. and we are totally delighted to have him as an inte

janice: and she didn't have to do the great work around and when she was at harvard law school when the very few women in the classroom, her husband was also there. and they have a group meeting and told her and she was asked why did sheas want to go to law school. she swallowed hard and she said, so i can support my husband better and understand what he is doing. i'm sure she wanted to throw up when she said that. ours is not why she wanted to go to law school so that she could understand with her husband was doing. she wanted to be a lawyer and she wanted become a supreme court justice. but she knew that is what she needed to say to get into law school. if you're able to do something like that andho elite still givg the powerful person the drawer, i think you have to recognize the times. janice: anything about bias in how people interact on a daily basis, but there's these unwritten ways that i think that such rights are life you point at one point in the book, i think the very beginning pretty. kelley: something like wikipedia only has like 15 percent of it focuses on women. when the

while she was at harvard law school, one of the very few women in the class her husband was also there she was applying and she was asked why she wanted to go to law school. i'm sure she wanted to throw up when she said that because of course it's not why she wanted to go to law school so she could understand what her husband was doing she wanted to be a lawyer. and she wanted to become supreme court justice. she knew that's what she needed to say. she knew that's what she needed to say to get into law school. if you're able to do something like that and it leads to your being the powerful person you are, i think you have to recognize the times. >> it's interesting to see i think the ways we can think about biased and how people interact on a daily basis but there's the unwritten ways i think things that saturate our lives. you point out at one point in the book some examples, i think at the very beginning, that something like wikipedia only has like 15 percent of it focuses on women or in the new york times obituaries i think it was something like 10% of them have ever been about wome

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also when she was at harvard law school one of the very few women in the class, her husband was also ere. and they had a group meeting and she was asked why she wanted to go to law school. she swallowed hard and said, so i can support my husband's better and understand what he is doing. i'm sure she wanted to throw up when she said that because of course that's not why she wanted to go to law school. she wanted to be a lawyer. she wanted to become a supreme court justice. she knew that's what she needed to say. to get into law school and be able to do something like that in at least two your being the powerful person that you are, i think you have to recognize the times. kelley: i think the ways we think about bias and how people interact on a daily basis, but there's these unwritten ways that things that saturate our life. you point out i think at the very beginning that wikipedia only has like 15 percent of it focuses on women in the new york times, obituaries, think again is like 10 percent of them have ever been about women's printed so these are things that are embedded ine our c