is joining us.y he is the dean of harvard medical school.ant to start with a story you were quoted in in "the wall street journal." you were working with chinese doctors privately for best practices and treatment. dr. daley: we are. the current pandemic respects no international boundaries. medicine and science are forces for international diplomacy that transcend politics. in late january, when it was clear that the virus was ravaging china, colleagues from china reached out to us asking for help. it was a time when there was tremendous tension between our countries. our government was struggling. channelse not formal for communication. the centers for disease control was not involved in china. the national institute of health was rebuffed. because of personal connections, we linked to our chinese colleagues and began working together. in those early times, they were reaching out to us for help. very quickly, the tables were turned and we started asking them for help. the communication continues. it is a model for cooperation. in those clin

of harvard the dean medical school.f the reportr from last september, giving a grim warning of the impact of the pandemic. the phone lines are open. (202) 748-8000 if you live in the eastern or central time zones. (202) 748-8001 for those of you in the mountain and pacific time zones. a line set aside for medical professionals, doctors, nurses, emts, (202) 748-8002. thank you for joining us. we begin with the numbers, courtesy of johns hopkins university. around the world, 3.6 million confirmed cases and the global death toll approaching 257,000. is joining us.y he is the dean of harvard medical school. i want to start with a story you were quoted in in "the wall street journal." you were working with chinese doctors privately for best practices and treatment. dr. daley: we are. the current pandemic respects no international boundaries. medicine and science are forces for international diplomacy that transcend politics. in late january, when it was clear that the virus was ravaging china, colleagues from china reached o

joining us in elledge with the harvard medical school. he is professor of genetics. about science and research. you hear stories daily about covid-19 research, models and the like. what is the sense, best way to approach what people digest? guest: this is a huge question. created totalhas information overload. it is a tsunami of information we have never seen. -- are coming online every day. it is important that people work quickly. it is essential, but it comes with risks. much of the information cropping up is not pure -- not peer-reviewed. eager to report this news but it is important for people to oh distinguish between types of information they get. there are three things to consider. one is the source of the information. , howecond is the messenger the information is transmitted. the third is the type of evidence. is it published peer-reviewed research, or is it a preliminary unverified? onis an anecdote or based observations from different labs over time using lots of experiments? it? kind of information is is it research done in laboratories? mice, humans? al

we talk about harvard medical school, one of the most important medical schools in the country.their first year students will be taking their first semester classes online. and prepare for a hybrid system in which maybe possibly vast numbers of students don't return to campus while others do. maybe a different schedule or a different way of working on it. that plan has been -- not been finalized yet but the school telling students to prepare for something very different. it all speaks to what's happening across the entire country which is that schools are making decisions sort of on their own and trying to figure out what to do and also making the decisions based on a future they don't know yet. what the world is going to look like in august or september. so for now, for students and parents and people that work in schools, there's a lot of hurry up and wait with some real questions about what things are going to look like when this is all over with. >> yeah, universities, colleges, middle schools, high schools, a lot of folks waiting for answers. >> they're threatening to sue l

. >> reporter: fearing a second wave, harvard medical school saying it will provide remote learning fornts entering this fall. but at the university of arizona, in-class learning will start on schedule this fall. the school taking testing into its own hands to protect its students. abc news getting a first look at how they plan to do it. at the heart of the project, the research labs where they've created and now processed their own diagnostic and antibody tests. the school's president, a cardiothoracic surgeon, telling me he's confident they can test, track, and help treat their 60,000-plus faculty, staff, and students, even reserving a dorm building to be an infirmary if needed. >> this could be the blueprint on how to reopen, or it could be a blueprint for a disaster. >> absolutely right. >> have you thought about that? >> oh, absolutely, every day. every day. we've got 104 days before we're scheduled to welcome people back to campus. it will look very, very different. >> reporter: and still, with so many unknowns, some images of hope. isaiah wallman, the last covid patient to leave

. >> also, the crisis on campus harvard medical school, the latest big name to cancel some in person classes for the fall >>> a major american company telling employees they can work from home forever. is this the future of the american office? >>> the fbi sounding the alarm, how china is trying to steal u.s. vaccine research. the news tonight from a member of our nbc news medical team, how he may have gotten the virus while taking extreme care his message to everyone watching >>> the first responder fatally shot by police eight times in her own home her family now saying it was a botched raid the outrage tonight. >>> and for the class of 2020, a graduation like you've never seen >> announcer: this is "nbc nightly news" with lester holt. >>> the science and grim projections that brought this country together against a common enemy are under fire tonight with the doctor that helped lead the fight against coronavirus. president trump tonight rejecting dr. anthony fauci's dire warnings against opening the country too soon the president suggested schools could reopen soon even as we lear

george is professor of genetics at harvard medical school and professor of health sciences and technology at harvard and at the massachusetts institute of technology writ director of the us department of energy technology center and director of the national institutes of health center of excellence in genomic science. he leads the symphonic, synthetic biology where he oversees the directed evolution of modules, column yours and all genomes to create new tools with applications in regenerative medicine and bio production of chemicals. in 1984, he developed the first direct genome sequencing method which resulted in the first genome sequence. he helped initiate the genome project in 1984 and the personal genome project in 2005. george is just a delight to have you with us after george speaks devils bar were will share questions on what she's heard and asked the first question for jamie and george to answer. deborah is another superstar. the former president of barnard university she's now professor at harvard business school senior associate of harvard business school online. her new book ,

in fact, harvard medical school, we spoke to the dean a couple of weeks ago, announcing today classes this fall will be virtual, they will be online. they will not be in person. host: it is hard to work on your cadaver virtually, but yes, that was a feature of my first year in medical school and every other medical student. but you can do that on a computer now and learn your gross anatomy, which is of course, fundamental to being a doctor. you can probably do that almost as well online. next from new jersey. good evening. hi, doctor. i have two questions. do you know if those children who have those severe effects, do you know if they have had the seasonal flu vaccine? and then the second question is, is it possible that the coronavirus interfered with the vaccine,seasonal flu to cause the cytokine storm? because they say that the immune system goes haywire, and i would think that that causes the inflammation of the lungs. and then the subsequent breathing difficulties. twot: because these viruses, influenza and covid, came along at the same time, there has been a lot of lessons abou

he's also an associate professor at harvard medical school.rofessor and doctor, thank you for being with us. dr. poznansky: thank you. host: i want to turn our attention to washington, d.c. and this headline from roll call. the senate back in session as members of the u.s. senate, including the republican leader mitch mcconnell, wearing face masks. joining us on the phone is a reporter who covers congress for cq roll call. >> thank you for having me. host: it seemed to be a day with new norms for physical and social distancing. the mandatory headgear for members of congress as well as reporters covering congress. katherine: yes, it's definitely a whole new world in capitol hill. it is important to note that the masks, while recommended by the attending physician and started an arms on capitol hill, masks are not a requirement. there is no one enforcing mask wearing up year. there were some senators today who opted not to, including senator roy blunt, chairman of the rules committee in the senate. so it is definitely not a rule. some capitol po

jeremy faust from harvard medical school.e's also an emergency physician at bremen women's hospital. .tthan for bnguseih my first question is listening to president trump,nk do you t it's possible to have a safe and effective vaccine by the end of the year? >> i don't think anybody knows that. i think it would be a historic achievement. we certainly agree we want it to be ready as soon as those things are psible. thiss a little bit like a race with hurdles. the faster you go, you might get tripped up. we need to balance the needs of speed and not getting tripped up and falling flat and being setback. anchor: there must be a number ofta oes that can still come up. ranteeay it is no g the may even be a vaccine. >> of course we don't know, an we won't until we really see the proof in the pudding and people not geing sick anymore. vaccine science is something we have gotten a lot better aas a society the past 100 years. i think it is reasonable to hope that something will work to some level. the question isfehen and how ive. thos

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. >> also, the crisis on campus harvard medical school, the latest big name to cancel some in person for the fall >>> a major american company telling employees they can work from home forever. is this the future of the american offic

jeremy faust and an instructor at harvard medical school. thank you for being with us. want to begin with your op-ed in the washington post." the metric of when it is safe to reemerge? what is that metric, dr. faust? guest: the metric that i think that is been discussed the least, but matters the most is what is called excess mortality or excess deaths. that is is simply the number of people who are dying in comparison to the usual rates we know about. have been00 years, we good about keeping track of how many americans die every day, every week, every year from all causes, heart attacks, cancer, old age, and the numbers are remarkably stable. we know that. it is a credit to the epidemiologists of the past and present that we know that, but what has occurred in the last month is unprecedented in recent decades, and we're seeing a gigantic spy concern areas of the country in debts total. we know the reason is covid-19 right now, but the more important thing is the sheer numbers. this is having an outlandish effect as compared to a bad flu season or something else. deaths

." >> reporter: researchers at harvard medical school revealed stunning news today after they immunized 25 rhesus macaques like these, using d.n.a. from the coronavirus vaccine. >> we showed that vaccines produce antibodies and want vaccinated animals are protected either partially or fully. but we also show the levels of antibodies correlate with how the protection is. >researchers used the d.n.a. of the spiked protein for the coronavirus and inserted it into a plasma d.n.a. vaccine. this helped the monkeys develop higher levels of antibodies, which lowered the level of the virus, following exposure. so how optimistic are you that you could get similar results in human trials? >> so, while data from humans will require rigorous clinical trial, these data, in an anima model, increases our optimism that the developmentave vaccine for humans will be possible. >> reporter: researchers say eight monkeys who were exposed to the virus had no detectal trace of it, while the rest have very low levels. any idea how long the immunity lasts? >> that's a very important question, and we did not addr

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. >> reporter: harvard medical school saying they'll provide remote learning this fall. just a day after cal state university cancelled all in person classes for the fall. at the university of arizona, in-class learning will take place this fall. taking testing into its own hands to protect its students. abc news getting a first look at how they plan to do it. at the heart of the project their research labs where they've created and now process their own diagnostic and antibody tests. if there's an outbreak, this is where you'll find out. the school's president, a cardiothoracic surgeon, telling me he's confident they can test track and treat their 60,000 plus faculty staff and students. even reserving a dorm building to be an infirmary if needed. this may be the blueprint on how to reopen but have you thought what if it's the blueprint for a disaster? >> every day. we have 104 days before we're scheduled to welcome people back to campus. >> reporter: and some images of hope. the last covid patient to leave this tennessee hospital after fighting the virus for more than 5

thank you for having me on reilly dylan i'm a physician at harvard medical school and formerly served as an advisor to the president of guinea are managing people. it's good to have you in the mix hello or who welcome to the strange. thank you for having me i'm robin martin i'm a partner with trial eco i had its technology practice and most recently i helped the indian government whether it's our oga safe to contact tracing out. looking forward to hearing about that and irene welcome to the skin tell of what i am a senior researcher for the citizen lab we are a cybersecurity and human rights research lab based at the university of toronto in trying to canada. great to have you all of the you get i'm going to start with and how does your online show called start here they looked at civil institute in this era of a global pandemic and wondered how far east see far in terms of invasion of privacy so i'm going to hand over to saundra if our men and the media and what is out to help us track of it 98 quantify covert 19 there's an app for that crucial recognition g.p.s. glue to make it easy

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is joining us.y he is the dean of harvard medical school. i want to start with a story you were quoted in in "the wall street journal." you were working with chinese doctors privately for best practices and treatment. dr. daley: we are. the current

stephen elledge at the harvard medical school. professor of genetics and medicine. we thank you for you c-span has unfillered coverage of the pandemic with white house briefings, updates from governors and congress and daily call-in program hearing your thoughts about the coronavirus crisis. and if you missed any of our live coverage, watch any time on .emand at cspan.org/coronavirus >> massachusetts governor charlie baker held a press briefing. he announced his plan to expand testing abilities in being the highest tester. this is 50 minutes. governor baker: good afternoon. today we are going to talk about our long-term plans for covid-19 testing here in massachusetts and new announcements to make testing more accessible for people and talk about significant shipments of personal protective aquifment that arrived in massachusetts. first, we will provide our daily update on hospitalizations. as of yesterday, we conducted er 410,000 tests with over 8,500 new tests reported yesterday. and tests were reported for all tests that came back yesterday and that is within the

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stephen elledge at the harvard medical school. professor of genetics and medicine.e thank you for your time. guest: thank you very much. host: coming up, we are going to hear from president trump's strategic, occasions director. strategic communications director. letter on, we will hear from rick wilson. talk about why he opposes the president's reelection. the vote tomorrow supposed to take place in the house, the tag of $3 trillion. here to talk is congressman mark walker. by chairman of the republican congress -- conference. guest: glad to be with you. . host: talk about -- what issues might you have with the legislation? i think it is a huge wish list with many things not connected to covid-19. theyusly there are things can draw a line too, but this is not the time or the moment to largestin the legislation to work on things partcannabis, salt tax this is a very serious time. a couple of republicans, i do not see this getting traction. host: if you took away those ,ssues you have concern about and only stepped two dollar figures, you could support? guest: it is

robert green of the g2p research project in harvard medical school. thank you.ork and thank you to your colleague as you said, those who are on the front lines and the laboratories. we will beat this. there will be an answer. it's just a matter of getting there as soon as we can. dr. green, thank you. >> thank you. eric: arthel. arthel: yeah, eric. absolutely science is fascinating. there is no question about it. i say that as a pre-pharmacy major myself at xavier university. moving on now. passengers on major u.s. airlines will now be required to wear a face mask. this after bac after backlash ft attendance over the lack of protection. details on those new rules and whether they go far enough, up next. i am robert strickler. i've been involved in communications in the media for 45 years. i've been taking prevagen on a regular basis for at least eight years. for me, the greatest benefit over the years has been that prevagen seems to help me recall things and also think more clearly. and i enthusiastically recommend prevagen. it has helped me an awful lot. prevag

former harvard medical school professor william haseltine said this is publication by press release and it's damaging trust in the fundamental methods of science and med sill when we need it most. markets fell about 1.5% yesterday as the company said it would be some time before it published the actual results. shares fell about 10%. now this doesn't mean that the vaccine doesn't have promise. it just means nobody has seen the actual raw data. while the rest of you are looking at the headline on the press release, scientists are looking for the table of data and they didn't find it. airbnb and silicon valley's ymca have filed paperwork with the state talking about layoffs. 661 people were laid off. ymca said it let go 1,600 plus. we're trying with the ymca to get a follow-up with them. and a strange story out of nasa, the head of the human space flight department has quit six days before nasa was set to launch astronauts back into space. doug navarro says his resignation has nothing to do with the launch but it is unexpected. he was in charge of the last safety checks. americans have no

know one of the world's greatest scientists we promise you the backdrop as a professor for harvard medical school health sciences and technology at harvard and the massachusetts institute of technology and director of the national institutes of health center of genomic science and biology of the licenses where he oversees the directed evolution of molecules polymers and whole genomes to create new tools and applications and bio production of chemicals. 1984 to develop the first genome sequence which resulted in the first genome sequence to help initiate the human genome project and is just a delight to have you with us and then what she has heard and asked the first question for james and george to answer the former president professor at harvard business school and senior associate from online. her new book will be released in august. after that then moderate the question-and-answer session based on questions raised by you on the facebook site anyone compose a question and then those that will rise to the top of the list we encourage you to post questions throughout the session. entrepreneur and

george is professor of genetics at harvard medical school and professor of health science and technology at harvard and massachusetts institute of technology, director of the department of energy technology center and director of the national institutes of health center, leads the synthetic biology license where he oversees the directed evolution of molecules, polymers and whole genomes to create new tools with applications and regenerative medicine and bio production chemicals. in 1984 he developed the first direct genome sequencing method which resulted in the first genome sequence which he helped initiate the human genome project in 1984 and the personal genome project in 2005. it is a delight to have you with us. after george speaks, debora spar will talk about what she has heard and ask the first question for jamie metzl and george to answer. deborah is another superstar, the former president of barnyard university, she's now professor at harvard business school and senior associate dean of harvard business school online. her new book, work made mary love, how change shapes our huma

cnn's anderson cooper spoke with a researcher and former harvard medical school professor who says thatour behavior that will ultimately stop the virus. >> there is no mystery. look at the eastern asian countries. beijing hasn't had a infection or five or six weeks. same in most chinese cities. they shut it down. human beings through behavior without a drug and without a vaccine can shut down this virus. the recipe is simple. very simple. identify those infected. identify all of those exposed. mandatory solo isolation for 14 days in controlled conditions for those exposed. that does it with a strong stay at home order. you do that and the infections could be over in six weeks in this country. can't americans do that? why can't my fellow americans do that? that is the way to build an economy back. that is the way to create safe cities and to open schools. that is what we see in the countries that do it. why can't we do it? >> obviously china has a more draconian policies. >> south korea. south korea. thailand. >> taiwan as well. >> it is not a mystery. countries that are democracies can

beth's son the director of the rheumatology program and assistant professor of pediatrics of harvard medical school, joining us now. doctor, thank you so much for being with us. tell us, what are you seeing in kids who are presenting with this? >> so what we're seeing are the clusters of pediatric patients coming into the hospital with a variety of symptoms. some of them are severe. all kids have high fevers and signs of inflammation, as you said, and some kids come in with features of kawasaki disease, some coming with very low blood pressures and some kids with signs of storm. >> what is that last thing you said? >> right, so sidakite storm, the regulatory mechanisms of the immune system are unleashed so you have a lot of hyperinflammati hyperinflammation. >> okay, and big inflammatory response you're seeing. how do you treat the kids and how are they responding to the treatment? >> so the treatments are directed towards what signs and symptoms we're seeing. kawasaki disease has been a well described entity for decades. so kids who come in with features of kawasaki disease with red eyes, red crac

jeremy faust and an instructor at harvard medical school. thank you for being with us.t to begin with your op-ed in the washington post." the

jeremy foust, an instructor at harvard medical school who was my guest here seven weeks ago. dr. foust suggested that the diamond princess cruise ship. 13 of the infected passengers and crew died. a fatality rate of 1.8%. one half of the w.h.o. estimate. but dr. foust points out there were four times the number of people over 70 on board the ship. so the age-adjusted fatality rate would be around 0.4%. as he wrote a few weeks ago for slate, this all suggests that covid-19 is a relatively benign disease for most young people and potentially devastating one for the young and chronically ill, albeit not as risky as reported. that view was echoed from the doctor from stanford writing for sta sta stanten news saying the fatality rate to be 6.25%, together with colleagues at stanford, the doctor then published a study on covid-19 in santa clara california. they estimated 2.9% and 1.4% of the count infected can suggests a fatality rate of 0.12 and 0.2%. much closer than the w.h.o. the university of public health found similar results with anti-bode testing. they estimate the actual luck

the study out of harvard medical school, that we talked about earlier this week, showed that protection9 vaccine, seems to be associated with neutralizing antibodies which bind to the surfaces of viruses and prevent the virus from attaching to our human tissues. and in this study, the level of neutralizing antibodies was pretty low, lower than what we've been seeing in the few reported studies in patients who have been infected with the virus and then survived. so that's concerning. potentially you could rescue this vaccine with another dose or another option is what's called a prime boost strategy, what you do is use this adenovirus vaccine as the immunizing dose and then boost it with another type of vaccine, a recombinant protein vaccine. this has been tried to some success to boost antibody responses. this may be a way to improve the performance of the vaccine. we'll also find out what happens with the two other adenovirus vaccines that will go into human trials in the united states, the astro zeneca one, that's also an adenovirus vaccine, and the j&j vaccine. >> the point you made

else, i'm joined by an emergency room physician at boston's hospital and an instructor at harvard medical school. and i want to be fair here, doctor, to the press secretary. i think it's actually accurate to say the incredibly robust testing regime applied to the president of the united states is probably not scaleable for the entirety of the american people but the key insight which is that if you're testing regularly and tracing contacts, you could have a lot more security. safety does seem to meet applicable and scaleable. what do you think? >> that seems correct. when people look at the white house or any leaders, they are looking for leadership. when they see they are testing themselves, that makes sense. the fact that we can't have universal testing at this time is an unforced error and it's unfortunate. the fact they are testing themselves tells me they believe that testing is important. that's good they believe that and i think the rest of america probably notices that and wants the same for themselves. >> it also strikes me that there's some sort of medium between these, right? so you'r

also an instructor at harvard medical school. please come back again. dr. faust: thank you so much. st: a reminder our phone lines are open. for those out west -- for medical professionals, doctors, nurses, emts -- joining us in washington is dr. gary simon, an infectious -- the director of the infectious disease division at the george washington university school of medicine. thank you for joining us. dr. simon: nice to see you. host: you were quoted and a wall street journal piece that you worry about a second wave of covid-19. that was weeks ago. where do you stand tonight? dr. simon: i don't think that has changed. many are concerned that the second wave may be worse than the first wave. in past viral outbreaks with influenza. more recently the h1n1. there are more serious infections in the second wave. there are no good reasons to explain that exactly. the virus does not become more violent. perhaps the people -- more v irulent. perhaps the people in the second wave are likely to have more bad outcomes. the second wave seems to be a potential. people are getting tired of all the

again, that's mass general, harvard medical school, b.u., and georgia tech. bunch of different models out there. that's kind of a well-sourced thing. and obviously it's scary for all the front line reasons, unless, of course, you look at those absolutely preventable 22,000 deaths and decide, well, yeah, 22,000 dead but we really got to get the economy going. that kind of thinking is what brings us to our next guest tonight, and the next big mistake that the country is making right this second. stay with us. you wouldn't accept an incomplete job from anyone else. so why accept it from your allergy pills? flonase relieves your worst symptoms which most pills don't. get all-in-one allergy relief for 24 hours, with flonase. sprinting past every leak in our softest, smoothest fabric. she's confident, protected, her strength respected. depend. the only thing stronger than us, is you. wefrom the 7,000 cignat, clinicians,. she's confident, protected, her strength respected. supporting front line doctors and nurses, to everyone staying home to protect others. find ans

meant to boston that you are surrounded and you include some of the great institutions and harvard medical schoolith researchers working there and massachusetts general hospital. you just have some of the greatest medical practice netio in the country. has that given the city an extra sense of security about this? >> i think in someways it does. it's definitely given me a sense of security knowing that not only are we providing world class care for people of boston and the patients that come in there but also for research and we're doing right now a pilot program at mass general hospital. we were doing a thousand tests on people to kind of get an understanding of who might have had the virus to prepare our kind of reconnecting or going back to work if you will at some point, looking at that information and the fact that you have a mass general doing that, you have other hospitals doing so many great things, it's amazing. we have about 9200 cases of coronavirus in boston. about 300 people have lost their life and i think that if we didn't have these great hospitals in boston, i think more people w

the dean of the harvard medical school removed the portraits of its greatest physician scientists from the entrance hall to the school. you can guess the reason. they are all male and looking on them would make the students feel uncomfortable and unsafe. we can only wish these doctors walk in the operating room. the narcissistic identity politics has destroyed the pursuit of knowledge throughout the humanities and most of the social scientists. students are being given a license for ignorance. all they need to be told about their book is the content and the gonads of its author. to know whether they can dismiss its content as thoroughly repugnant and not worth reading. shakespeare, milton, plato have all been demonstrated by students that do not have the slightest clue about the renaissance or the enlightenme enlightenment. a columbia undergraduate went about the beleaguered core curriculum, quote, who is this mozart, the superior white men? it upholds the premise is of racism. no professor has ever defended our intellectual patrimony against such shameful outbreaks of ecstatic know no

anish jha is with the harvard medical school. he joins me from los angeles to talk about this. it's a good sign infection rates seem to be falling in many states but the death toll is still high, over 1500 a day. i'm curious if you feel comfortable with the reopening that's going on at the moment. we can't all be locked down forever, but it's a delicate balance. >> yes, it is. as was said in the segment earlier, this is -- we have to be very careful. the reason that we have seen the case rates and number of deaths coming down over time is because people have socially isalated. but you know that we have continued to see clusters of cases in places where people are unable to socially isolate such as nursing homes, jails and correctional facilities and food processing plants. and those places people are unable to isolate so we saw infection. so now as we begin to reopen, the social distancing will be less and what we have to watch very carefully is how much transmission are we actually seeing in the community? in some communities we may see a lot of transmission in which case we'l

we turn to the hopeful side of tonight's vaccine story, let's listen carefully to former harvard medical schoolin finding a coronavirus vaccine. >> in my view, the question isn't when we're going to have a vaccine. it's if we're going to have a vaccine. nobody has ever made, as far as i can tell -- and i'm asking everybody that i can't remember a vaccine that stops a virus that infects you through your nose. we don't have cold virus vaccines. so that is a real question that remains an open question. >> nbc news senior international correspondent keir simmons spoke with adrian hill, one of the researchers working on that vaccine at oxford university. >> reporter: hey there, lawrence. good evening. there is a lot of good news here, and the researchers at oxford university who i've been speaking to, really excited tonight because you just have to look at the numbers. $1 billion invested, 1 billion doses of vaccine according to astrazeneca by the end of 2021. that's if this vaccine turns out to actually work. and i think what you're going to see, what nbc news understands, is there's going to be an