. >> not even harvey denton's. >> okay. the i guess, you know, after hearing a number of cases especially understanding the how stringent did sound is the permittee holder is going to be surprised what he has to do to stay within those standards. and i'm not exactly sure what occurred on some of the nights that appears there's a difference of opinion as to what can and can't be heard. i'm a heavy sport that the sound has to be contained within the entertainment and i've spoken to it extremely on every case in front of us. i think that we won't know until this thing gets an opportunity to go through. it's a shakeout and we'll see what happened. i'm supportive of the holding the permit. >> i i guess i'll agree i guess to me what was persuade active there was no complaints other than the appellant out of 4 hundred tenants in this building. and then on the streets, in fact, so that to me is significant as well as the fact that the video shows some noise but it's unclear whether it's patrons from other facilities as well as the