when you dive deep into the fight of the harvey milton organization as well. if way that are just super san francisco. people in san francisco really care about who's on the board and the housing authority and things. they should. >> it is not necessarily something that's chronicle or we are going to deal with. >> yes, this is not filling the role of all the journalists who are out of work. there is things to be done, right? in san francisco and as in elsewhere, there are so many journalists out of work that to get the low hanging fruit, you need to shovel. there is a low hunger for this kind of news and people do want to be informed. onceal news was elected, local news does not matter anymore. no, it matters more. people are doing it with more impunity and less scrutiny. i think san francisco as in many places of the focus on national news doeseopl to look on local through the prism of national news. >> do you think this model works for politics? could it other industries? >> in san francisco, we are relatively small city. there is so much going on and there