the arrest of hollywood producer harvey weinstein in 2017 for sexual offences precipitated the call forse actress geena davis, a long—time campaigner for gender equality, says the biggest difference is that women are, indeed, talking about the injustices and inequality they've suffered. it's made it ok talk about finally, you know, that people are very comfortable now being outspoken about the sexism, the inequality, the unequal pay, the unsafe working environments that women have suffered through for decades. while in the modern era, the number of female directors in hollywood has never edged much beyond the 10% figure, the drive for inclusion came with big gains. chloe zhao became the first woman of colour and only the second female ever to get a best director oscar in 2021 for her film nomadland. then sian heder�*s film coda, about the hearing child of deaf parents, scooped last year's best picture oscar. cheering despite the commitment that's been made to get more women behind the camera, this year's oscars really seemed like a bit of a setback because none of the directing nominees

harvey weinstein had assaulted her and she believe that quentin tarantino tried to kill her, he put her in this unsafe car and she had this big crazy wreck that happened on the set of kill bill that had never become public. and it took her 20 years of guilt tripping. tarantino to sort of wrest the footage from him. she had it, and she was finally ready to talk about it. so she went. she chose maureen. and in the process of the story were just all these different crazy hollywood people lying us and harvey weinstein took my checking emails and spun them all around and gave them the tmz and they tried to sort of screw us over on the story, come out first and when the piece finally came out, we were so stressed out and it made like an incredible avalanche of news on a saturday morning. and we did what we always do when we stressed out, which is go to barney's and start drinking and we're sitting there eating french fries, sitting there in the restaurant and both tables, either side of us are talking about the footage and the story and we're just like so stressed out. but we got through it,

kelly and harvey weinstein, you can mean many in -- you could name many in this position, it is a challenginguation. host: you mentioned the 2024 election. what if he does win and he has still got indictments and trials pending? what happens then? guest: that would pose questions that are so unprecedented that it is hard for me to imagine how we could resolve them in the time you have on this program. you have a state government trying to punish the executive officer, the president of the united states. the federalism concerns are there. in a federal case, federal cases are the most problematic for a former president, you would still have a situation where the judiciary is trying to punish the executive. i do not pretend to know exactly how that would play out, but it would be an unprecedented, constitutional crisis: that word gets thrown around -- crisis and that word gets thrown around often. it would be uniquely appropriate in this situation. host: a wrench of op want to talk to you, but i want to ask about michael cohen. and the plesnd minuses of the prosecution resting so much of their c

she told the guardian, quote, i don't think a harvey weinstein situation could exist now but a lot ofnd i worry about that. while the 16 candles actress added canceled culture, so people feel safer saying it's not a problem, not just in hollywood but everywhere. so some interesting companies from her. but, you know, cancel culture not for everybody, maria. maria: no, it's wrong. it is, cheryl, thank you so much. we are going to keep watching that for sure. meanwhile the new york post editorial board out with new op-ed. the op-ed goes onto say biden has boosted the use of humanitarian parole programs to allow record numbers of migrants to enter the country and work here. he also ballooned the temporary protected status program letting masses of new-comers taking refuge in the united states. republicans unveiled new border legislation targeting policies. border reinforcement act would resume border wall construction and limit the customs and border control one app to commercial purposes and require department of homeland security to release monthly data of known got aways. matt whitaker

e jean carroll testified she was emboldened to come forward with her accusation after the harvey weinstein scandal and the rise of the "me too" movement. cbs's elaine ca ha know is at the courthouse in lower manhattan. >> reporter: donald trump's attorney wasted no time about trying to raise doubts about carroll's allegation that in the mid-90s, former president trump assaulted her in a dressing room. he asked carroll about, quote, supposedly being raped by trump. not supposingly, carroll replied. i was raped. that's your version, tack pinot responded. carroll, those are the facts. carroll alleges the attack was violent and left her traumatized. she did not report it to police. in a heated exchange, tack pina noted carroll never extremd during the assault. i'm not a screamer, tarele testified, adding later in a raised voice, i'm telling you, he raped me whether i screamed or not. tack pina alleges carroll made the allegation just to sell her ought biography. carroll denied that and said she came forward after women began sharing their stories during the "me too" movement. trump has repeate

are kept in unsanitary conditions, prisoners in rikersk, for example until recently, producer harvey weinsteinl with concrete walls 3x2. orange jumpsuit. in short, everything, as recently at the request of liberal users, the neural network drew the only difference is that trump, even in prison, will be guarded by employees of the same secret service and a special status reserved for those prone to suicide, by the way, such a status was mysterious, who died behind bars. jeffrey epstein, a pedophile, was suspected of supplying minors to prominent democrats. well, yes, clinton never got there. such a principled new york prosecutor's office, everything was put on the brakes. note that they don't do this with administration, biden or biden family or clintons or any of the corrupt democrats who made millions and billions, but that's what manuals are made to fill up logical contradictions sticking out in all directions with tons of verbal husks. why stand above the law, if you can comfortably sit on it and hang your legs donald trump turned out to be more dangerous than isis. they panicked. in this p

jean carroll testified she was emboldened to come forward with her accusation after the harvey weinstein. cbs's elaine quijano is at the courthouse in lower manhattan. >> reporter: donald trump's attorney joe tacopina wasted no time trying to raise doubts about e. jean carroll's allegations that in the mid-1990s, former president trump assaulted her in a new york department store dressing room. tacopina asked carroll about "supposedly" being raped by trump. "not supposedly," carroll replied, "i was raped." "that's your version," tacopina responded. "those are facts." carroll alleges the attack was violent and left her traumatized. she did not report it to the police. in a heated exchange, tacopina noted carroll never screamed at trump in the assault or screamed for help. "i'm not a screamer," carroll testified. adding later in a raised voice, "i'm telling you, he raped me, whether i screamed or not." tacopina suggested carroll made the allegation publicly just to sell her autobiography, which was released in 2019. carroll denied that and said she came forward after women began sharing th

jean carroll testified she was emboldened to come forward with heart story after harvey weinstein on. cbs's elaine quijano is at the courthouse in lower manhattan. >> reporter: donald trump's attorney joe tacopina wasted no time raising doubt that in the mid-1990s, former school.nt trump assaulted her ki tanaskedro aut b rap suppodly, i was rap tur version, rede artifacts. carroll alleges the attack was violent and left her traumatized bureau in a heated exchange, tacopina noted carroll never sct trump in the assault or scream for help. "i'm not a screamer, carroll testified, adding later in a raised voice, i'm telling you, he raped me, whether i screamed or not. tacopina suggested carroll made the allegation publicly just to sell her autobiography, which was released in 2019. carroll denied that and said she came forward after women began sharing their stories during the me too movement. trump has repeatedly denied the allegations. in a statement, the communications director for trump's reelection campaign called the civil trial a fake case and a witch hunt. >> this case is 100% rev

mollie ringwald taking aim at cancel culture, reflecting on the me too movement and looking at harvey weinsteint of people have gotten swept up in cancellation. some people have been unfairly canceld and don't belong in the same party as harry weinstein. cancel culture makes people roll their eyes instead of changing jobs, it is a problem in hollywood and everywhere. >> todd: the stars from the '80's will save us, i've always said that. >> ashley: says it everyday. >> todd: i've never said that. >> ashley: no. squatters set up camp in a closed down bar and the situation took a dangerous turn. that bar was burned to the ground. the president of the associations enough is enough and he is here next. >> todd: crime in one blue city is so bad you can't get a bottle of shampoo off the shelf. tell you where this video was taken next. retirement, but i wish we had more cash. you think those two have any idea? that they can sell their life insurance policy for cash? so they're basically sitting on a goldmine? i don't think they have a clue. that's crazy! well, not everyone knows coventry's helped thous

next we have the arrest and we are not likely to see him be led in handcuffs as we saw with harvey weinsteinr thing we are not likely to see is justin another thing we are not likely to see isjustin bieber, with his mugshot, we also have a lindsay lohan and hugh grant. donald trump's lawyers have argued this part of the process, the mugshot is not necessary, because he has the most recognised face in the world and there is no need to identify him. if we go back to the process, one of the key terms people are searching his arraignment, number one and number three and that basically means that charges will be read to him in court and he will have to enter a plea. and you can see which plea he enters decides what happens next. we are told he will plead not guilty and if that happens it will go to trial but we don't have a timeline of when that is likely and as you can see as part of the arraignment process, thejudge might set bail which allows donald trump to go home to florida and not be taken into custody. that's a bit about the process and plenty more on our website and lots of analysis as w

you didn't get the job, but you just weren't banging the right people, like okay, harvey weinstein.e, it's creepy. >> and even worse, the people that didn't give you the job they now know something about you. david? it sounds like these ladies could use some razors. >> we all could, you know? the whole rainbow spectrum. >> you could sell them from you vw golf and that spacious backseat of your spread. >> you get 40 percent on cargo, greg. it's just logical. i don't know. i don't know. i tell you, i identify as pansexual, i will have sex wit anybody who does the dishes. that is so funny, and obvious since that joke should've been eight years ago. kennedy, what you make of this? i think people are incentivized to identify as something nonconventional because you get attention for a. >> you are kind of pressure too because having two teenagers in my home, they talk about their experiences in school and they have pride week is a bigger wee then christmas or hanukkah. it's massive, and it's so borin to be normal. to be a heterosexual person and everybody wants to be special. i think that

metoo movement at its height 2017-2018 and it became clear that with the most high profile cases harvey weinstein etc. there were problems that we thought the sexual revolution and feminist movements might have solved concerning consent that still very present. but more than that. there came to light these cases that were not so clear cases of sex that weren't not necessarily unconsensual but consensual and yet still bad degrading traumatizing and so many women related to these stories stories like cat person the new yorker short piece of fiction that i think is still their most red piece fiction piece of short fiction ever. and there was a general sense among young people people my age my peers and colleagues that something was off in our sexual culture the me too movement had highlighted it but there was something much more personal going on, too. so many people were having sex that they were supposed to enjoy but weren't and i wanted to figure out why what was happening. was there something wrong with our definition of consent? was there something off about our understanding of what sex even w

kelly was, harvey weinstein, michael evan already --avena tti, many before him.aidi: some of the staunchest critics of the president have criticized the flimsy nature of the indictment. are you waiting to see details before you pass judgment here? >> right. i am one of the people that has raised questions about the indictment. but i have not seen it yet. so i encourage everyone watching, if you are making, that say, investment decisions based on this, i would be very careful and take with a grain of salt anyone who has very strong opinions about an indictment they have not yet read. but i have questions about it. on its face it seems like the weakest case. of the ones i have outlined. if it is a campaign-finance case i think that would be very challenging. that poses a lot of questions. a tax case might be easier. further government, it might be stronger. nonetheless, i think there are legal hurdles, unsettled questions i had for the manhattan das office. they are relying on at least one witness, michael cohen, a convicted fraudster and lawyer. but we don't know

people have been unfairly cancelled and they don't belong in the same category as harvey weinstein. >stephen spielberg. the idea that he's going to speak up to defend his movie it's and some of the movies are great. but after standing by and watching hundreds of years of statues being destroyed in this country and defaced like some sort of weird modern american isis, wrecking cities and wrecking monuments i think is selfish and a little late to the game. >> jeanine: yeah. and it doesn't reflect who we were at that time. what do you think? is cancel culture leaving us? >> jessica: i think it is a little by. i'm seeing it in the data that i look at with younger generations. they want to accomplish things and get things done. that's why everybody got on board with joe biden. they've been overwhelmingly pleased with the agenda items -- what? >> greg: yes. they voted for joe biden to get rid of cancel culture. that's a hot take. >> jessica: i'm talking about being more moderate in your policy positions and in your life. >> greg: that is silly. you're being silly. >> jessica: that's where w

. >> and that statute was opened up after the news of harvey weinstein. i got that right, right? >> and i have a few of these cases, actually. it reopened the statute, gave a one-year window, that people anytime they were assaulted could file a suit. that's a good thing. the challenge since then is how do you prove something that happened decades ago in a predigital era, where witnesses have disappeared, died or forgotten anything that happened. >> it's an acknowledgment that a lot of women did not come forward at the time because they were scared and didn't feel like they would be supported. danny cevallos, thank you very much. >>> a federal appeals court has rejected the former president's appeal to block mike pence for testifying before a grand jury about january 6th. joining me now is nbc news senior legal correspondent, laura jarrett. fill me in. >> the d.c. circuit late last night told the former president you're not going to get a pause on the lower court that ordered the former vice president to testify. the special counsel is particularly interested in the conversations

i saw other women coming forward after harvey weinstein and thought, who am i not to tell my story?man accused of sexual assault. jennifer bond gene represented both bill cosby and r. kelly. thanks for being here, councillor. she testified that after being there, she had never -- i will say it directly. she never had sex. that's pretty powerful testimony in a case for civil damages, right? if the jury accepts that that's big. >> it's going to be hard to make a nexus between this event that occurred, allegedly, what? 25 years ago and her claim of damages, particularly in light of the fact that she claims she was assaulted by somebody else. people live lives during 25 years. and she's going to have to convince this jury. even if she can convince the jury that this occurred she's all has to convince the jury that the reason she is unable to have had this romantic life or sexual life was because of this event. and with 25 years of life in between, that is a difficult thing to do. but the problem is is that you may have a jury who doesn't care. and they are going to punish donald trump e

it didn't work for somebody like harvey weinstein, right? it didn't work for bill cosby.ly. in this instance, though, to your point, ana, it's a civil case and kind of what i wanted to remind people is it's not just the sexual assault rape offense. it's actually also defamation, but unfortunately for e. jean carroll, i think what's hard for a juror is to say to prove the defamation, you have to prove the underlying rape, and i think a lot of people kind of operate when you're a juror in this mind-set that it's a criminal charge, even though it's a different burden of proof. so i think that's the real uphill battle for e. gene at this point, despite being attacked by big joe tacopina, it's going to be difficult for her to be able to overcome these old stereotypes because unfortunately they have juice. >> it's an old playbook, a defense we see again and again in cases of sexual assault. isn't that because it's an effective one? but i also wonder is there a risk of alienating the jury here? >> people are looking at the jury makeup. it's important to note the composition of i

too movement and all the women who came forward with allegations of sexual assault and rape by harvey weinsteinon. >> thanks. i'm joined by karen friedman, karen thanks so much for being with us. a big day in this case. maybe the biggest day with e. jean carroll on the stand facing cross-examination. how do you think she held up? >> it sounds well the reporting that she held up quite well under this cross-examination. but i really think the tape of cross-examination she was subjected to is exhibit a about why women don't come forward. i think just the fact that she was questioned about what she did and didn't do, why she didn't scream, and really making her feel like she did something wrong when she was the one who was attacked. and she froze. she did the best she could in the moment. but this is the type of truly blistering cross examination that why women don't come forward in the first place. >> how does what you described as blistering cross examination, how does that play inside the courtroom, though? joe tacopina, he was actually warned several times by the judge to back off on certain li

andrew, harvey weinstein and the we are clearly only talking about the tip the iceberg here knows thatthere is a new vital interest in exposing the intersection of power and sexual ity and dismantling the silence that protects powerful people from the full from bearing the full cost of their desires. maybe now, to quote norma desmond in, sunset boulevard. polly has finally ready for her close up, so i will stop there. i did not do as much research talk, perhaps, as i could, so i'm happy to i'm happy to answer any questions on anything, on anything at all, books or otherwise. we have a microphone and if you have questions, please come in to the microphone because so c-span can record it so as not to have any questions i'd like to ask ask. you have to go to the microphone. she didn't bring up the first thing. where did you get all this information to find about all these people? i mean, i was ranting right. well, so that is that is of course, we could go out for drinks afterwards and i could talk about for about 4 hours because unlike first book, which really was reading old sermons, rea

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there on marijuana possession, martha stewart convicted of insider trading in that courthouse, harvey weinstein the horrible case. >> a lot of big cases. >> actually, the biggest, the most notable, as you bring it up, is central park five, some of our younger viewers won't remember this. back in the late 80s, a group of minority teenagers were arrested and convicted of this brutal attack of a jogger. >> central park jogger. >> yeah, donald trump at the time called for those teenagers ranging in age from 14 to 16 to be executed. he took out a full page ad in the newspaper calling for their execution. it turns out the central park five were innocent. they were cleared by dna evidence, exonerated. dn approved it was someone else. but that whole process happened in that very same courthouse. >> wow, a lot playing out today. thank you very much, scott. >> and we will continue to monitor the latest on president trump's indictment both on air and online. live coverage continues ahead on the "today" show at 7:00 this morning. they have a team of reporters and analysts ready to cover this historic day.

he sued harvey weinstein and his company over hostile work environment conditions he did something rarelyith law enforcement, particularly those we election ambitions, which was he sided against some police officers by suing those who killed eric garner bragg represented the family and he wrote about this after the doj announced there were no charges, saying it was time to reform laws on excessive force, and he said the whole situation had become another failure to pursue a criminal charge for the police killing of an unarmed african american man that's not just any voice. that's the voice of someone who was then going to run in our system and new york, like many places, d.a.s have to run, accountable to voters, but aren't supposed to be partisan they need to run and have good relationships with police. in one case, it wasn't just about police brutality and race, it was what it meant to be independent in public service. you have true independents and not a partson or team or tribal mind-set that a certain group can do no wrong, which is the kind of corruption that keeps corrupt cops or po

trafficking, you know ranging through the recent verdicts and the galane maxwell case the nexium case harvey weinstein and larry nassarie cases as a society. do you think we're reaching some sort of inflection point in how we address sex trafficking and other sexual crimes? that's a great great question and a great point. i mean, i don't know if i would call it like an inflection point but i do think we are gradually becoming less and less tolerant of you know, kind of this this rape culture that's been prevalent in the past. i mean for me shutting down backpage was about you know, was about shutting down something that normalized the sexual abuse of vulnerable teenagers, and you know, i remember just hearing again and again, you know, people say well if this is so bad and why is it fine? you know, why is this easier than ordering a pizza and you know, if it's if there's really something wrong with it, and so that normalization was really, you know part of the problem and i think what we're seeing as more and more survivors come forward and then you know, and then the legal system kind of vindicates t

you have to wonder to yourself, how does someone like harvey weinstein get to do what he's done for decades? but we know that if this was happening in our everyday life, it would be a different kind of conversation and a different type of situation. i mean, this is sophisticated care. of course, these people have to get documentaries and movies and nationwide every day. people and i argue in my book everyday, people are not being counseled. i just know is that you're making a document about your booboo. you know, i have a guy tell me of the day. he was like, you know, i don't agree which you are in this. i got canceled. wow. where did you get cancer? my job canceled. your job canceled. you okay? tell me how well you know i said something and it was my opinion and. they fired me. well, what did you say? well, you know, i made a joke. a joke? okay, don't be scared. now, say that joke. well, i prefer not. why you the shame? uh, i said. well, if you think that's wrong, wrongful, you have the ability to sue. if there's a wrongful termination, you know, people can do that. sometimes people get it

of something that has never happened before they have seen a lot of cases from 9/11 cases to harvey weinstein, you know, celebrated cases in manhattan, but nothing like this. >> i think that's right. it is fair to acknowledge that i think these are people who are trained to shut out what is going on outside the courtroom so i think that in a certain way they will present very calm and collected manner but at the same time, it is hard for them to -- those things. in a normal case, threats against prosecutors are not -- they're taken seriously, but prosecutors are kind of fundable, you can replace one with another i think most criminal defendants understand that and unless you make it personal, they really don't pose such a great danger but in the situation like this, where it is so charged, and it is more than just a threat from a particular individual, rather sort of sense of threat and a sense of attack from a whole portion of the population, i think that must be extremely hard to deal with. and i guess they have to muster all of the professional training that they have had and experience th

talking about nypd, you're talking about intelligence gathering and then secret service as well harvey weinstein tried at the building behind me, but how is this different >> obviously we're going to hear the word unprecedented for a long time with regard to the legal challenges trump faces, but it is equally unpress cedend for law enforcement. if i had to pick a city in the country best equipped to handle this, this trial, this ongoing process, it would be new york. they know how to do it and the partnership there is strong the fbi's joint terrorism task force has literally last time i looked maybe 200 nypd detectives, very seasoned, under one roof with fbi and every one of the three letter agencies, state, county, local, federal. secret service layered on top of that adds extra security measures and then this massive intelligence effort across all the agencies, including homeland security probably also in touch with the social media platforms because they are the first -- the first eyes on what is developing their algorithms saying we're seeing this, but not this, and passing that on to law en

in the harvey weinstein case. do you think this is a stretch by the d a or a good strategy? sarah the d a. wouldn't go this far in charge the former president unless they thought they had a really good case. that means there's no statute of limitations problem and the reason is what you said trump left the state of new york so the statute of limitations has told or pause. he moved near me and palm beach county, although i live on the other side of the bridge, but you can't move out of the state and still claim a statue. limitations has expired. no pause, and also, there's another reason. governor cuomo signed into law another measure that pauses the statue of limitations because of covid so donald trump may have some good arguments in defense of this action in new york, but i don't think a statue of limitations is one of them. okay let's move on to dna. alvin bragg is also suing the house judiciary chairman jim jordans, and he's basically saying look, there was a transparent campaign to intimidate and attack his office. he is getting death threats. um, what do you think abou

he -- if you are famous or very rich and he got caught is because harvey weinstein.e did not pursue a charge for harvey weinstein and evidence was there so to expose all of this. host: what -- how did you respond to the trump indictment? caller: the trump indictment if you follow the law, and if you follow the legal briefings, you knew this was coming. people who were surprise were donald trump followers because they get their information from him. if you follow the law, if you attack the da, that is going to screw you even tighter. you saw this coming. donald trump, somehow supporters -- his supporters are so deceived. on monday when it was announced that graduate would be not for the month of -- when it was announced that the grand jury would not be for the month in april they were celebrating online. host: cornelia in idaho. caller: i could not help but notice that -- anyway, i am so frustrated but i do not blame people or the democrats even for leaving terrible things about our former president because he has had horrible past from 99% ever since he announced his

he -- if you are famous or very rich and he got caught is because harvey weinstein.e did not pursue a charge for harvey weinstein and evidence was there so to expose all of this. host: what -- how did you respond to the trump indictment? caller: the trump indictment if you follow the law, and if you follow the legal briefings, you knew this was coming. people who were surprise were donald trump followers because they get their information from him. if you follow the law, if you attack the da, that is going to screw you even tighter. you saw this coming. donald trump, somehow supporters -- his supporters are so deceived. on monday when it was announced that graduate would be not for the month of -- when it was announced that the grand jury would not be for the month in april they were celebrating online. host: cornelia in idaho. caller: i could not help but notice that -- anyway, i am so frustrated but i do not blame people or the democrats even for leaving terrible things about our former president because he has had horrible past from 99% ever since he announced his

i could imagine harvey weinstein.re are many people who have faced criminal charges from multiple jurisdictions. the r. kelly one is a good example. he was charged in new york federal court, then in chicago report, then in chicago state court, then charged in the state court. every class in the country, where it seemed like he was getting in line to charge mr. r. kelly. he went to trial in new york knowing she had more files.to go -- had more trials to go. we had to testify annoying if he did that would be used against him in subsequent cases. in chicago, one codefendant beat the charges on the stand, but r. kelly cannot do that, because the jury would find out that he had prior convictions in new york for summer crimes. -- similar crimes. it is challenging for the former president because he is facing so many charges. caller: good morning. thanks for taking my call. a few questions -- first, the 34 counts that they charged mr. trump with, how do you come up to 34? do they stem from maybe one charge and then other thi

um than what i've ever ever seen covering any cases here, you know, from harvey weinstein to the dsk dsk when he was arrested and ultimately dismissed. there's just something very different here because you don't get this kind of a presence for a criminal defendant. that's about to end. the court. and be arraigned and when you look around, it's just surreal. let me just show our viewers, you know. yes you have all the security here, and we see more court officers now arriving. what's happening here is that a lot of this court staff, the court officers are now running security around the perimeter of this courthouse. with all the barriers here, the nypd is nypd s here as well. and then you've just got all these cameras. everyone here just waiting for donald trump to arrive. everyone just hoping to get that shot of him surrendering. we expect him to surrender here in just a few hours. and he's gonna be just up the street here. this is hogan place. this is where the district attorney's office is. he's going to walk through the doors. it's going to be brief, and he's going to go upstairs

to go public with her claim she changed her mind after "the new york times" reporting about harvey weinsteiniolence in a striking moment earlier today, whe lisa, i start with you take your time and take us through the day. >> reporter: it was extraordinarily powerful what i would say is, joe tacopina was gentler than folks anticipated. but he definitely tried his very hardest to shake up e. jean car carroll. he didn't. at one point she reclaimed her time, so to speak. he was trying to press her on why she didn't scream. he offered a number of alternative explanations that he says she herself had offered to try to show that she had offered inconsistent reasons for not screaming. eventually, she lost it and said, you don't get to beat me up for not screaming some women scream. some women don't he raped me whether or not i screamed she started weeping. he was taken aback and asked, do you need a moment? gathering herself with all of the midwestern gumption her lawyers told us she was raised with, she shook her head and so no she pushed back on joe tacopina forcefully and using the platform that