there are a lot of moving parts and a lot of people working together. >> i would agree. >> i mean, we have been trying to find, has there been national data? how do we prove this as one specific piece for collaboration? i think again, lieutenant, thank you for those words. there are effectiveness. but there's a clear link that this is the safest strategy. it's a work in progress. i am appreciative of ways to come up with data measures so we can say, definitively. this plays in the whole scheme the violence reduction >> i mean, i just want to be clear. it's not impossible. it's difficult and it takes time and resources. if we had the available resources to do an indepth study. it's a serious under taking. >> i followed up that. you know what. it's take it even further. let me say this. it isn't rocket science.

has reported a comprehensive data privacy and security among other things establishing national standards for notifying consumers about data breaches involving their personal information to get this passed. but if there's been a data breach you wouldn't have to rely on the good grace of the company as a result of the breach. the security breaches so that they could look at whether it affects our criminal law ways and national security and i will ask ms. rich is similar question. >> its vital oil law enforcement if we don't know about a breach we can't investigate and if we find out too late and begin investigating the trail may have gone cold. there are as i think you know 47, 46 or 47 stat laws the breach reporting but only if you require the victim to low - delete comer for the law enforcement. some of our biggest identity theft cases which i testified in front of the crime of the community a month ago, were made possible because we got early reporting from the companies and good cooperation from the victim companies through the investigation and the was critical to follow the trail and find the hackers and the people who stole personal data. the two things the law enforcement needs to be able to have a s

was establishing national standards for notifying consumers about data breaches involving their personal information. we're trying to get congress to get this passed. if there has been a data breach cover your information is there, you would not have to rely on the good graces of a company that screwed up allowing the data briefed but they would have to -- they would be required to notify you. how important is for your department and other law enforcement agencies to be notified of data security breaches so they can look at whether it affects our criminal laws and national security? m will asks. rich a similar question. >> it is vital. we find out about it too late, the trail may have gone cold. there are 47 state laws that govern breach reported that only a few of them require the victim to notify law enforcement. some of our biggest hacking and identity theft cases were made possible because we got early reporting from the victim companies and the got cooperation throughout the investigation. that was critical to follow the trail and find the packers. -- find the packers. -- a h find aackers. -- the hackers. we think that that a breach reporting is vital to our ab

national character, am i correct on that, sir? >> yes, sir. >> sir? >> sir, think there has been a lot of work for several years on multiple different types of data breach legislation introduced in all different types of committees and i believe the administration is real close to presenting to congress a pack than that was worked on by multiple executive agencies. >> thank you. little more friendly question this time, sir? >> yes. >> sir? >> yes. >>. gentlemen, this is always a question we run into. further in the light 6 federal fiscal constraints should states attorney generals be allowed to enforce federal security requirements. yes or no? >> yes. >> sir? >> could you repeat the question? >> should federal fiscal restraints be able to be enforced by state attorneys general? >> i'm not sure, i'm not sure if i'm qualified to answer that. >> i will not press you on that. sir? >> i'm not sure if i'm qualified to answer that but i think so. >> sir? >> absolutely. . . >> that keep pace with technical advancements in threats to data security? yes or no? >> yes. >> again, mr. vladeck, if -- do you want to give a comment? do you believe that the ftc should b