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what can we do better it ensure that there no more hasans out there? how many more out there that are a threat to our united states military because we know al qaeda targets the military. they targeted ft. dix. they bring back the playbook again and again like the world trade center and will probably try to do with the capitol. how can we stop another case from happening again? i will direct that to anybody. anybody who would like to tackle that. >> sure. i can start. i would like to get away from the term. there some examples of that and there was a mentor term involved. during my testimony and one thing to start focusing attention on these mentors. that doesn't have to be in law enforcement, but that is one way to do it. unfortunately, timothy mcveigh was one of them. that's an unfortunate reality that we are facing today. >> anybody else on the panel? >> yes, i think that prevention is the right word. the question is how you think about prevention. not strictly from a law enforcement point of view, but community policing point of view and from a pub

the major hasan case, the ft. hood shooting.kill those people at ft. hood. >> there's been a great deal of activity just this week in yemen with respect to terrorists. >> that's right. against a group of some 30 members of al qaeda one was somebody are leased from guantanamo and returned to the battlefield. another may be this american-yemeni cleric. just as recently as a day ago, this cleric admitted that major hasan, the alleged ft. hood shooter had contacted him on the internet to ask him if it was okay for a muslim to kill federal soldiers. now increasingly important. not as important as the afghan/pakistan border region but certainly maybe second. >> peter, let talk capabilities here. he thinks the alleged suspect may have started in nigeria, got on northwest flight 253 from amsterdam to detroit. at some point before the plane landed, and can i bring you what i've got now from delta airlines? they've given us a statement. upon approach to detroit a passenger caused a disturbance aboard northwest airlines flilgt 253. passeng

so major hasan, of course, his family in the aftermath of fort hood talked about this. this guy had a very heavy work load that was consistently being increased. he was hearing this horrible, horrible stories. that coupled with him being opposed with those occupations and his religion coupled with the ongoing harassment, all of this over time, clearly the guy snapped. there were people in the military at fort hood, even veterans there had been warning against this problem, this type of a serious situation happening along time in advance. in fact a mother is a guy called lled chuck luther at fort hood who is a two tour iraq veteran who came out. talking about how he had been warning the chain of command of this type of thing happening for a long time. he is telling folks, look, people are being exposed to secondary trauma. we need help for these counselors. they're going to have something else happened right here on the mainland just like what happened over in baghdad last may. this is a guy who had been discharged from the military, but then he has chosen to stay on for

and then hasan, he was giving away his possessions and dressed in white the morning of the massacre and it looks like a jihadi terrorist attack. >> peter l the united states send intelligence officials to the pakistan to find out more about this? >> sure and in pakistan there is a sub substantial fbi and there are officials that will look at the case seriously. we have heard from pakistani reports that the group of americans wanted to hook up with a group called judge mohamed in pan stack. it was the group that killed daniel pearl and if that allegation is true, these guy wrs getting in pretty deep. >> larry: paul, how do you gather the people are recruited in. >> that's a great question. lots of cases, it could be individuals in the community, radicalizers with ideology to come in and we are seeing that the sbrernl is more and more important and the young men are exposed to the ideology over the internet and this is a young man that is relosing videos that young americans have been releases and vn influenced by. but the context here, larry, there has been -- the united states has been

>> well, actually, i think in the case of major hasan case, i think most americans understood this guy was just somebody who went postal essentially, and had fastened on to these jihadi ideas. years ago he would have fastened on to mooist ideas. this is about a guy who went postal. >> larry: thank you both very much. we will call you again probably tomorrow. thanks. president obama is on his way to oslo. we have a great group to discuss the news of the day in 60 seconds. i crush you like tiny clown car. because you are... ...clown, yes? female valve: come, you hit me again and i break you. male valve: oh, you messed with wrong pipe now, car. ha, ha trust me...i have to live with her. announcer:accidents are bad. but geico's good with guaranteed repairs through auto repair express. your walgreens pharmacist also dispenses wisdom... to help you make the right health care decisipds. like understanding medicare part d. ou tgh a free plan comparison report... to guide you to the most cost-effective... and comprehensive plan, whether you're new to medicare part d... or you've been covered fo

. >> warner: we met "new statesman" magazine columnist mehdi hasan at the kings cross underground stop site of the 2005 bombings perpetrated by british citizens of pakistani origin. >> what gets people going here, especially the slightly more hotheaded younger members of the british muslim population, especially from pakistani communities, is foreign wars. and they see on the news british troops banging down doors in the middle of the night in helmand province in afghanistan, and that cancels out all the counter-extremism work you do at home. >> warner: voters hoping for a quick pull-out don't even get a hearing from the opposition. conservative party leader david cameron supports the afghan war, and made a highly publicized trip there his weekend. even in the election coming up next year, says shadow foreign minister david lidington, the tories don't plan to make the war an issue. >> but were not going to be out scoring political points on afghanistan for the sake of it. we've got troops out in the field, what those soldiers want to see is the soldiers fighting and giving them united

what can we do better it ensure that there no more hasans out there? how many more out there that are a threat to our united states military because we know al qaeda targets the military. they targeted ft. dix. they bring back the playbook again and again like the world trade center and will probably try to do with the capitol. how can we stop another case from happening again? i will direct that to anybody. anybody who would like to tackle that. >> sure. i can start. i would like to get away from the term. there some examples of that and there was a mentor term involved. during my testimony and one thing to start focusing attention on these mentors. that doesn't have to be in law enforcement, but that is one way to do it. unfortunately, timothy mcveigh was one of them. that's an unfortunate reality that we are facing today. >> anybody else on the panel? >> yes, i think that prevention is the right word. the question is how you think about prevention. not strictly from a law enforcement point of view, but community policing point of view and from a pub

hood shooting with the cleric who went on al jazeera recently to explain that major hasan the lead suspectthe ft. hood shooting had asked him if it was okay to kill fellow soldiers. so we have seen yemen is sort of a hot bed of militancy. >> larry: frances, he is claiming ties to al qaeda and talking a lot. what do you make of that? >> that he is talking about is good. what investigators can corroborate. the terrorist ties back to yemen are extensive and long between al qaeda's affiliation with operatives there. our consulate in saudi arabia was attacked and recently the head of the internal security service in saudi arabia, there was an assassination attempt against him emanating out of yemen. our embassy there has been attacked more than twice and our security personnel and diplomats there are often targeted by al qaeda. we have a long history of counterterrorism problems emanating out of yemen and this is only the most recent. >> larry: eric, the suspect is upper middle class, prominent nigerian banker family. how typical is that? >> unfortunately, it is becoming more and more typical.

apparently someone happened upon a major hasan's name as the topic of a terrorist investigation, who has been regarded as the topic of radical imam. i hope we have turned a corner that will enable us to carry on our responsibilities and make recommendations to the start constructive without interfering with a criminal investigation. >> i share in the -- cheer the determination to better understand the shortcomings led to the failure to share critical information in this case. today's briefing for their advance our understanding and of land -- further advance our understanding and some of the gaffs in policy that prevented some potential sharing of information within the army and with other agencies involved region most notably, the joint terrorism task force. today ' was very helpful, but i would be remiss if i did not express my disappointment in the head ministration -- in the administration's working of this case. it is clear the department of defense has been instructed to fully cooperate with the in ministration's reviews and investigations that appeared to not be under restrict

it reminds me of what happened in the hasan case six, eight weeks ago. you had different bits and pieces of information and nobody's is connecting them. there's enough to tell you this is potentially a dangerous situation but nobody is communicating. >> the current secretary tried to clarify that today on cnn's "american morning." watch. >> you said throughout this the system worked smoothly. what exactly worked in your opinion? >> that's a phrase taken out of context. what i said is moving forward, meaning once the incident happened, we were able to immediately notify the 128 flights in the air as well as airports on the ground domestically, internationally. our law enforcement partners, our other ail yus snited safety procedures to make sure this could not happen on other flights and people were watching out for it on other flights even as we focused on what went wrong part of this one. >> so you recognize it didn't work smoothly leading up to this? >> obviously, it didn't. no secretary of homeland security would say that. >> larry: governor, have a lo

hasan at fort hood i share keep kinship especially the last 13.ey attack our nation and they attack the very ideals of who we are as a country of liberty. these barbarians seek to destroy our country that my family came from syria to seek the freedom that their country of so-called muslim lands would not give them. like all americans on 9/11, my heart sank for the loss of our countrymen. the men and women that gave my family the god-given rights to practice their faith freely here like no so-called muslim nation would let them do. each time i've learned that it was at the hands of muslims that this was done, i felt a greater responsibility to act. because only muslims can defeat this threat. and i promise you -- i promise you most american muslims despite our relative silence do feel deeply the burden to claim back our faith from these extremists political and theological ideology, radical islamism. the followers of radical islamism are at war with this country's ideals and they're at war with the very concept that defined me as an american and as

nidal hasan, we know he was having interaction. we don't know the content of those. they were dismissed as innocuous. what if he was talking about concepts that most of us know, but if you know it, you know it is the court doctrine of al qaeda. iyou might see it and you say, that is not too bad, but it basically means, if you are not with us, you are against us and it is the premise on which everything that al qaeda is founded. we'd get more granular in terms of knowing threats when we see them and knowing what are not threats when we see them. but i think it is a bad situation right now. >> thank you very much. >> thank you, mr. chairman. to follow up on jim marshall's question, the war room that you were proposing, how would you make sure that it was visited? >> well, they are already visiting us separately. i think if you bring us, whatever the people who did this for a living -- i say "us" because there are very few of us and the field has shrunk. it seems like a fairly hot topic at the moment. >> i was looking for that team academic cancer. -- i was looking for

guest: a think everyone was surprised -- host: surprise that major nidal hasan had not been caught earlier: you get shocked when a tragedy like this happens, and doubly shocking when he gets of the details. we don't want to preempt the investigation, we already know that he provided a power point invested -- power point presentation to colleagues were he said that suicide bombers was a legitimate thing. some of the reviews by supervisors, the fact that law enforcement knew that he was in contact with an american yemeni cleric that had ties to the 9/11 hijackers -- there have to be alarms that go off, otherwise we see the consequences. host: democratic caller, go ahead. caller: good morning. thanks for c-span, first of all, and thanks for having the gentleman on. it is my understanding that he studies terrorism. please don't cut me off, but the way. it is my understanding that the city's tourism but it is that -- is that just terrorism committed by followers of islam, or perhaps all home from terrorists and the united states? for example, i would like to have him comment on the 45 acts of t

surprise is that major nadal hasan had not been called earlier? guest: you did surprised both ways.t is a shocking system. it is doubly shocking when you find out some of the details. we did not want to preempt the investigation, but we already know that he talked to colleagues about how you have to understand a suicide bombers and it is a legitimate thing. cide bombers was a legitimate thing. some of the reviews by supervisors, the fact that law enforcement knew that he was in contact with an american yemeni cleric that had ties to the 9/11 hijackers -- there have to be alarms that go off, otherwise we see the consequences. host: democratic caller, go ahead. caller: good morning. thanks for c-span, first of all, and thanks for having the gentleman on. it is my understanding that he studies terrorism. please don't cut me off, but the way. it is my understanding that the city's tourism but it is that -- is that just terrorism committed by followers of islam, or perhaps all home from terrorists and the united states? for example, i would like to have him comment on the 45 acts of terr

people didn't know what to make of major nidal hasan but surely no one anticipated that he would carry out the worst domestic terrorist attacks since 9/11. in each of these cases appearances proved far different from reality. today this subcommittee seeks to gain understanding of how people who seem like anyone else, those who are capable of interacting socially with friends and colleagues and in many cases are athletes and scholars could be recruited or self-recruited to train to be terrorists. my eyes were opened four years ago when a terrorist cell in my district, torrance, california, excellent police authorities enabled to in connect the dots on attacks to attack local synagogues and a military base. the folk planning to do that are now in jail. this isn't new subject matter for our subcommittee either. since early 2007, we have held a series of careful hearings to understand how someone with radical views which are protected by our constitution, let me say that again, radical views which are protected by our constitution, becomes willing to engage in violent behavior, and in some