hashemi, primarily. the recent disasters, this will be fairly quick. would like to invite members of the disaster council to engage in discussion. these events are so relatively early. having had the opportunity to be in washington with a lot of people that were directly involved, i wanted to convey some of the things that i've picked up. beginning with the new zealand experience, it so happened that one of the assistant illustrators was actually in new zealand representing the secretary of, and security at a meeting that happened to be there when the earthquake struck. i have the opportunity to talk to him a little bit. for the first time in a very long time, i am seeing seismic activity really register at the federal level. so often, they're focused on hurricanes and flooding. for now, seismic activity is really high on the radar. with that, there were lessons that he brought back that i thought were very interesting and insightful. it is not so much the number of directors scale that was the problem, it was the energy released in the shaking. this o