i suspect that former president sal los angeles hassalah has his own objectives and remains very much to be seen how those multiple political equations will play out. but i think that ultimately we'll have to get to negotiations. >> i wants to pick on your counter terrorism expertise now. we also know that the al qaeda in the arabian peninsula operate in southern yep edge. we know that there is an isil threat in the region as well. are you about to predict that these two forces will take opportunity of the conflict that's happening in yemen and perhaps try to further their agenda in yemen? >> well, i think there is little doubt about that. and one of the great ironies in all of this is that it's the saudi perception that what we see going on is essentially a sectarian war inside yemen, one which is being taken advantage of the by the iranians and therefore is working against the saudis overall strategic interests in the region, in this region-wide struggle if you will. that the saudis feel themselves to be involved in with yemen. the -- but to the extent the yep ownyep ownvinnie yemen