in manchester in the united kingdom, ruba ali al-hassani.ostdoctoral research fellow, at lancaster university and also co-founder of iraqi women academics network. and in bethesda, maryland, michael o"hanlon, senior fellow and director of research in foreign policy at the brookings institution. a very warm welcome to all of you, and thanks for joining us today on "inside story." stephanie, this is your report so i will start with you. more than 4.5 million deaths. that is a really startling number. it is obviously something very difficult to quantify. how did you get to that number? guest: this is something that the cost of war -- that costs of war project has been working on for years. i have built on the work of colleagues of mine at the project. for a long time, my colleague has generated and regularly updated an estimate of direct debt, people killed through weapons of war, through fire, the actual combat of war. that now is up to 937,000. that is the range she estimates of direct deaths. so my report builds on that. it uses a ratio from

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