hassett: he is. but i think that the idea we would get ledge live spwaoeuplts the next year or two is met far fetched. ramesh: is no hope on that front for time being. mr. hassett: that is a safe call. why we have one and a half minutes left. i did want to touch on something else you have written about controversial people do not like hearing that the poverty statistics have gone in the right direction over the last generation or so. mr. hassett: it was one of the things that i found most interesting feels that we put out if you go back it read hendon johnson who actually cared a lot about poverty but wrote very informed smart things about it. if you go back it look at war on poverty he declared and try to come up with a scorecard of how we are doing the official poverty numbers are not much help and they look leak we have not made any progress but they exclude any like all of the poverty programs so imagine if you're trying it track how are we doing with poverty and the american doesn't account that

hassett: yes. sen. tillis: i'm looking forward to support your nomination but now it's with an asterisk following your report on deflategate because i'm not a patriots fan. i thought it was remarkable. it will have to make me go back and change my smack talk but i will not use the hearing to drill into that. i did want to talk about a report -- you are very well published. one that i want you to spend maybe a minute or two on is the spending taxes. how would you cut through all the noise that we have right now and emphasize what we think we have to do to build the momentum to actually get to a sustainable 4% gdp growth? dr. hassett: i think it's essential if we are to move forward and make the policy changes we need to get higher growth, we have to build consensus by having rigorous modeling that draws on empirical evidence it is replicable. sen. tillis: is it purely based on tax policy? is it regulatory policy? what are the topline issues that people can understand but do not necessarily have your expe

hassett and i had the opportunity to collaborate together on workshare program. unimpressed this is not only knowledge but his thoughtfulness and his analytical skills. we don't always agree but we do agree on workshare. in that vein, dr. hassett, i would hope in your new role you would continue to promote this as an option in every state. with your help we've expanded to about 19 or 20 state. could you comment on that as an appropriate way to deal with it? >> thank you, senator. i commend the senator force leadership on this issue. if there's now an empirical literature evaluating your efforts that says rhode island outperform a lot of other states because you not only help state change unemployment insurance to help serve workers better but make sure the people of rhode island knew they could take advantage of this federal program. i know now there's hard peer-reviewed evidence that our successful. absolutely if unemployment insurance reform were to be on the agenda again the stop and large body of economic evidence

our guest is kevin hassett, chairman of the white house council of economic advisers. this is his first appearance at a monitor breakfast so welcome, chairman. first a little bit of background. like yours truly he is a native of the great commonwealth of massachusetts dopey from more rural part, greenfield. >> and it didn't get to vote for either of my home state senators. >> that's terrible. he's a graduate of swarthmore college and earned his phd in economics from university of pennsylvania. before his senate confirmation last september to his current post chairman has it was a resident scholar at the american enterprise institute here in washington. he was professor at columbia, worked at the federal reserve board of governors answer this economic advisers to three presidential candidates, george w. bush, john mccain and mitt romney. his current job, his first in the white house. now for the ground rules. we are on the record here so please no live blogging or tweeting. in short no filing of any kind on the breakfast is underway. there's no embargo in the session en

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you have others that went to take more of a nuanced approach like scott bessent and kevin hassett.valuating potential sale of tiktok's u.s. operations to elon musk. under one scenario being discussed, x with take control of tiktok u.s. and run the businesses together. tiktok calling it or fiction. annmarie: tiktok wants to remain autonomous in the u.s. what is interesting is is bytedance aware that chinese officials are having this conversation and basically handpicking who they deem respectable in their minds to take on this company? there are other people who also are interested in potentially buying tiktok. i would look to the likes of individuals like kevin o'leary. even people like peter thiel. where is he in all of this? where is mark zuckerberg who has made a few trips to have dinner with the president-elect and went on rogan and we need to make sure u.s. tech stays outside the hands of government adversaries? why is the chinese government handpicking who they want to control this company? two, do they get the other them -- algorithm or do they have to develop their own? jon

kevin hassett is a great economist. think you know, both of these choices are consistent with a strong trade and economic team. host: this is kristin mcdaniel, if you want to see her work, mercator's.org, she serves as a senior research fellow at george mason university's center. miss mcdaniel, thank you for your time. guest: thank you so much. host: the things to watch out for is the day progresses not only in the house and senate as they work on varying pieces of legislation but also former president carter, his body is set to come to washington dc for a series of state related funeral events, currently he lives in state of the carter center expected later on today several events set to take place over the next couple of days and you can see them all play out on c-span. you can always go to our website for more information on the app. you can talk about other matters of public policy and politics in open forum. if you want to spay, democrats 202-748-8000. republicans, 202-748-8001. independents, 202-748-8002 we will t