so i've never bought into the hastert rule so much. we violate it whenever we must.t's way it's been. now a lot of us want to deal with these children, the daca children. we want to deal with them. we have a bill. and i think many of us, now the pat president has acted on that issue, we must do something legislatively. and there is going to be a big push to move that. >> as you leave next year, i want you to consider, because we'll have you back a number of times. >> sure. >> i keep wondering why good compromise doesn't solve the problem. for example, if you want to have a big infrastructure bill and the democrats run around saying we can't do it unless it's -- if it's not david, if it's not labor unions, and the republicans say no, we don't want that. why don't you double breast. just say have some of the jobs will be union and some won't be. there are ways to compromise and still put a million people to work. why doesn't that happen? why don't they sit down and say we'll double breast. some union jobs, some nonunion jobs. but let's spend some money and build some s

we've never violated the hastert rule here.y issue a majority of support for whatever the measure is but aren't a majority of votes. that's what we deal with on a regular basis. it's unfortunate. but we need to grow the governing wing of the republican party. >> and how do you do that? is this a -- what's been the chicken and egg here? is this the conservative media complex? that is, it's created aspective expectations too high among ideologues? something else? what do you ascribe it to? >> too many members of congress are worried about what outside groups will say about them or how they're school them. an extreme problem. i have a voting card. the voting card -- here's my voting card. who i'm accountable to. the people in the district of pennsylvania. not an outside group that seeks to profit off of chaos and disorder. face it, with those groups what they do, they're not going to -- they'll -- no member of congress will be praised for voting for an on the bus appropriation bill. necessary as it is, you won't get praise for tha

there's this old rule in congress called the dennis hastert rule where half of the majority party needs to support a bill for it to come up. ip don't see half of republicans in congress supporting a clean daca deal without the wall or something to go with it. so the question is will president trump put his thumb on the scale and actively campaign for this like he didn't on other obvious issues to get it done. possibly i think it's because he's liked the press coverage he's gotten out of this. >> what's the likelihood this could get done? congress goes to recess in early october. nancy pelosi is saying -- >> it's largely semantics. they like saying d.r.e.a.m.ers. they don't want to say amnesty. nobody wants to say amnesty. i mean to me the more interesting thing is what tim brought up, which is this question of like why is trump doing this. i think he's totally right, right? he loved the good press he got. he hated the bad press he got when he decided to rescind daca. he loves the good press he got when he made that first budget debt deal with the democrats, which is really a minor thing

after 9/11, in 2001, dennis hastert had to fly on military aircraft due to security purposes. nancy pelosi as the next speaker had to fly on military aircraft. that fluctuated the type she used because she had to fly across country. a lot of these red herrings are talking about eric holder or loretta lynch or even director comey using private airplanes. but the problem is they're supposed to due to security purposes. we need to be honest about this discussion. >> there are times when it is warranted. i'll give you the last word. >> i was going to say this one point that we would be remiss if we did not acknowledge the fact that donald trump may be a little in his feelings about the fact that obamacare repeal has not yet passed. tom price is also an easy target. that's why it was so easy to let him go. >> because he's the guy that was going to do it. >> absolutely. >> is that part of the reason why price lost his job, andre? >> i don't have any knowledge of it. i hope that's not true. for not setting a good example and being a good steward. >> see? he's double speak. no, your s

dennis hastert had to fly on military aircraft.the next speaker had to fly on military aircraft. that fluctuated the type she used because she ha to fly cross country. a lot of these red herrings are talking about loretta lynch or even director comey. but the problem is they're supposed to due to security purposes. we need to be honest about this discussion. >> there are times when it is warranted. i'll give you the last word. >> i was going to say this one point that we would be remiss if we did not acknowledge the fact that donald trump may be a little in his feelings about the fact that obamacare has not yet passed. tom price is also an easy target. that's why it was so easy to let him go. >> because he's the guy that was going to -- >> absolutely. >> is that part of the reason why price lost his job, andre? >> i don't have any knowledge of it. i hope that's not true. for not setting a good example and being a good stewart. >> see? he's double speak. no, your skype is repeating everything you say. we're having a little problem w

. >> i would say if there's any issue on which to test a time where you should break the hastert rule, this is it because immigration legislation has never been able to pass by just immigration legislation historically has required bipartisanship. there are elements of each party, although they're not equivalent, but still there are parts of each party that will resist. however, as you've pointed out and so important, this issue of all others in this contentious area is one that is strongly backed across the board by the public. members of congress know that we've got to find a way to get a functional center back into play. and this is, election, whatever else, wants to see problems solved. they pick add way to do it that's surprising. but nonetheless, that's part of the message. so you can't solve problems without bipartisanship. the leadership has got to be willing to take this to the members and allow both parties to vote for it in order to get a majority and they will get credit for it. >> great. thank you. now, i'd like to turn it over to all of you to hear some questions. i have

senate and because of the hastert rule here in the house the speaker didn't put it up for a vote so we we have come forward and often compromised. >> congressman, would you support a standalone bill that protected d.r.e.a.m.ers without comprehensive immigration reform, protect d.r.e.a.m.ers, up/down vote. >> can't speak for the entire caucus but i would support a d.r.e.a.m. act bill, what we saw in 2009, 2010. that failed in the senate five votes, some of those included democratic votes but yeah, i think that's something you would see wide support for. >> so congressman, it's willie geist here. speaker ryan actually kind of shares your point of view on this, in his statement yesterday the reason he supported donald trump ending daca is because the way it came about under president obama was an executive authority is not the way it should have been done. laws are made in congress and now it's in the right place. do you believe that you can get together with republicans and get this done or is it wishful thinking for the president to kick the can over to you all? >> well, anything in thi