president bush and that led to very directly to the removal of the reformist and moderate president hatami so i think it's fair to say there's been a pushing just missed both sides and that is why you know one is calling for a more balanced approach to this because the movement of iran has simply been painted as a sort of illegitimate. difficult country to deal with when the as i say there's been opportunities missed on both sides is there not an element of truth in that though they have been quite the polluter and they've had the chance to come to the negotiating table and they haven't yet yes i would agree with that i think they were wrong for example to. turn their back on president obama's initial overtures if you like and i did you know that i think you know let's be absolutely clear about this i'm not an apologist for iran's human rights record for their sponsoring or for her state terrorism overseas or for many other aspects of the regime the point i'm making is that we've got to view and judge this in a balanced way in there have been opportunities as they must by both sides. what