but i found out wonderful things about orrin hatch. when i ask people about orrin hatch, they light up. because obviously, he has this other side that i'm not familiar with. and he's full of fun. he's a charming man. he's very impressive physically. when i met him, i said what a handsome fellow this is. and he's a songwriter. and i have a brother who's a songwriter wrote "which would thing" and "angel in the morning" and so i felt an immediate closeness with orrin hatch. but anyway, he's a fellow who's the good senator is we can count on him for fiscal responsibility, dedication to children and education. he defends constitutional rights and supports our military. he's the man for me. a man of principle, integrity, candor, ladies and gentlemen, orrin hatch. well, thank you, jon and thanks to all of you for being here this evening. we're very grateful to you and grateful to have john voit here. that was quite a talk, wasn't it? i really enjoyed that. now, it's my privilege to introduce to you a very special performer. while some of have

since 1976, orrin hatch has served utah with honor.the senate -- isn't he -- i am in the movies. people say i am taller than they thought. or you are not as old as i thought you were. they never said that. when i saw orrin hatch, i'd only shown him on shows. n him on shows you know where his face is on television and he's usually addressing very serious subjects so he's very, you know, has a very serious demeanor. but i found out wonderful things about orrin hatch. when i ask people about orrin hatch, they light up. because obviously, he has this other side that i'm not familiar with. and he's full of fun. he's a charming man. he's very impressive physically. when i met him, i said what a handsome fellow this is. and he's a songwriter. and i have a brother who's a songwriter wrote "which would thing" and "angel in the morning" and so i felt an immediate closeness with orrin hatch. but anyway, he's a fellow who's the good senator is we can count on him for fiscal responsibility, dedication to children and education. he defends constitut

hatch 9, hatch 21 as modified. i ask unanimous consent that there's three amendments be adopted. >> is there objection? without objection, no. i thank senator enzi. with the agreement on that, those amendments will be agreed to. >> i need to go to nc 4 and 6 on administrative simplification. i want to say to my good friend from wyoming that in consultation with the white house on this because what nc 6 does is want to strike the word operations procedures in the administrative simplification, there is concern that if weism lement -- well, senator, you want to explain what the 4 and 6 are and then -- rather than me explaining what it is and what it is about it. >> thank you. yes, we certainly agree that we need to simplify the administration of health care and that that will make a huge difference, so i actually filed three amendments on this section. number five strikes a section because i didn't think it would work the way the authors intended, but i use number six to modify it so that i didn't need to do number f

no matter what they might think. >> i'm going to do a hatch thing but i'm much louder than hatch so people don't listen to him. he's been doing this for a lot of years. now, i used to be a bucket toter, i was a bucket toter here in the senate for two year, went to the house, i was a bucket toter over there as a staff member. my box kathleen sebelius says you're in charge of health care. well i was in charge of everything, window, rug, administrative assistant, whatever else. agriculture, too. but every time that we would get into problems with our hospitals, our doctors, our home health care people, clinical la, everybody in the health care delivery system it was because of some goofy thing out of the hqs on a cost containment

27, hatch 9 and hatch 21 as modified. my majority will consider those --. i'm ready to vote. >> i am considering those. just as i said over and over again, i don't know of anyone on this committee who's for health ration i rationing, it's used all the time and it's not offensive. we're not for health rationing, we're for driving down the costs and deliver affordable health care and by frightening people by talking about rationing does not contribute to the debate. all in favor say aye. >> ask tour a roll call. >> clerk will call the vote. >> no. >> no by proxy. >> no. >> no by proxy. >> no. >> no. >>> senator brown. >> no. >> senator casey. >> no. >> senator occasikagen. >> no, by proxy. >> senator murphy. >> no. >> senator whitehouse? >> no. >> senator enzi. >> aye. >> senator staalexander. >> aye by proxy. >> senator bird. >> aye by proxy. >> senator mccain? >> aye by proxy. >> senator mikulski? >> aye by proxy. >> senator kennedy? >> no, by proxy. >> i thank the clerk. further amendments, senator robert, you had an ame

i appreciate senator hatch's interest and concern in the area. obviously enormously distinguished lawyer, one of legal luminaries of his home state but i would urge my colleagues to oppose this particular amendment for three reasons. first, this is the health care reform bill. and it seems to me to be an awkward platform from which to drill into an area that is con signed enormously to the discretion of our judges. it would be a colossal intrusion into the judicial arena. the admissibility of evidence in a particular case is a determination that is very much the province of the trial judge. it is reviewed to an abusive discretion standard and highly unusual for anyone by stat constitute to try to intrude, it is one of core a so i think it is a very poor -- and i think we should vote against the for that reason alone. as senator mikulski points out, these usually around -- they usually revolve around expert testimony. it can this is a wide array of -- it's canvases a wide array of information on which the judge can make a decision. it would be uni

senator hatch, former chairman of this committee. and his thinking when of the proudest moment i had in the seventh about 25 years ago was coal offering with orrin hatch, the first child care legislation since world war ii in this country. if the cord blood issues together and senator kennedy doesn't have a better friend in the senate. the list is along the matters you have worked on together over the years to take the next half hour to get on that list of matters you have worked together on despite coming from different parties in different ideological point of view the have been able over the years to find common ground on matters of no possible and i have a quarter-century ago. you have this appearance of building this calcine of the difficulty and also the means by which you can achieve common results so i'm delighted to part of us in this effort can i thank you, i'm delighted to be part of this. we have been friends for a long time and when we fought for the child care development block grant bill the first child care bill in hi

hatch: i'm so appreciative of the senator's kind remarks. i've been here 33 years working on virtually every health care bill that's come up and we've done it in a bipartisan way. and i've certainly enjoyed working with the distinguished senator from oregon. he is one of the more thoughtful people on the finance committee and in this whole body and i'm grateful for him wanting to work together and work in a bipartisan manner. we have to do that. you can't take one-sixth of the american economy and work on a partisan basis. now, there are those at the white house who want to do that. there are some on the democrat side who want to do that. and, frankly, i'm just grateful that the distinguished senator from oregon is not one of them. i personally will do everything in my power to try and put together a bipartisan approach to this that would work and would put the best of the private sector with the best of the government sector to work for our folks in this -- in this country. and if we do it and -- and when you're talking about one-sixth of t

murkowski number six is the physician's assistants, hatch number nine, had 21 as modified. i ask unanimous consent of the three amendments be adopted. >> is their objection? without objection i thank senator enzi for the agreement. those amendments will be agreed to. >> i need to go to enzi number four and number six on administrative simplification. i am going to say to my good friend from wyoming that in consultation with the white house, because what enzi number six does is one to strike the word operations procedures in the administrative simplification. there is concern that if we implement well, first of all, senator enzi, you might explain what number four and number six or and then rather than me explaining what it is and what the flashing yellow lights or about it. >> thank you. yes, we certainly agree that we need to simplify the administration of health care and that will make a huge difference so i actually filed three amendments on this section. number five strikes the section because i didn't think of what work the way the authors intended but i use number six

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no senator hatch has co-sponsored it as well. i want to thank them for working on this issue and coming up with a solution. >> any further comment on this amendment? again, we're missing the necessary votes, so we'll have to lay this amendment aside until the requisite number of members show up. senator mikulski, do you have any additional amendments that you want to propose at this point? >> there were amendments to be sucked by senator gregg on improving data collection, which i know we would also -- to be suggested by senator greg on improving data collection. >> there are two amendments we've worked out and i would like to move to an amendment which isn't worked out. >> well, wait. those amendments -- you had a gregg amendment 9 related to shared decision-making and you had gregg amendment 10 related to data collection. >> those are both agreed to, as i understand it. >> i would agree. then when we get a aquarium, we could do a unanimous consent. >> we'll just accept those when we get a aquarium. i would offer gregg amendment

we adopted a hatch amendment while you weren't here? >> no, that's a blessing.we're on number eight. >> am i on -- >> you're up, sir. >> we included your chiropractor immunity -- >> that means a lot. that means a lot. i'll call amendment number 8 on comparative ektiveness research. the purpose of the amendment, to summarize -- >> which number is this? >> number eight. number eight. >> staff will please distribute the amendment if it hasn't been already. >> okay. >> go ahead, orrin. >> thank you, mr. chairman. the purpose is to prohibt the use of comparative effectiveness research by providing the standard of care in state and federal courts. now, what i'm concerned about, i believe patients and providers should better understand their care and be confident of its efficacy but never lose sight of the fact or of the basic understanding that medicine is simply not an exact science. we're all different beings and we sometimes need different therapies, some drugs work for some people, some work for others, some don't work for some people as well. there's a varability

it senator hatch is senior republican, a fabulous senator, a constitutional scholar, a man who has been to conformations time and again and i know he made a very eloquent speech just earlier today and i was recognizing senator hatch. >> thank you, senator, good two have your leadership on the senate judiciary committee. i think it is impressed to raise the questions in a trance of that judge sotomayor and this has some ideas of what the questions will be and this is a very important question to most of us -- the second amendment means a great deal to us. it's a long time to get this heller case finally decided that the second amendment is a personal right and i think the distinguished senator from alabama has explained it quite adequately. the seventh has to look at judge sotomayor's entire record and to evaluate her judicial philosophy including her speeches as well as the cases. now her second amendment decisions appear to have unnecessarily minimized and confine the scope and vitality of the second amendment constitutional right. it even after the supreme court in heller case in not

orrin hatch. -- one- -- oren hatch. >> i will be very short. just want to thank all of you, for being here tonight, and supporting both the health and -- the house and senate. we have to take them back. we simply have to. we love and appreciate all of you, god bless you and keep telling. -- keep helping. >> please welcome pete sessions. >> thank you very much. and you for hosting us tonight -- and i have the opportunity tonight to see exactly what table that i mat. 218. we cannot wait to get there with you. it will be great. let's go to victory. the job in the house is to retire nancy i want to thank each and every one of you for being here tonight. i want to thank paul ryan, who has a great job as the chairman. thank you very much. as you have seen, we have highlighted the american entrepreneur. i like to recognize jay from florida. with a backpack and several dollars, he came to this country to look for the american dream. to becoming the founder of a real-estate investment company, he has built his american dream through hard work and innova

>> hatch number 94? >> it's enzi's amendment with 94 with his permission. >> oh, senator enzi number 94. senator enzi. but it's with his permission. and only with his

and i want to say, to orin hatch, he has been a warrior in raising money and if you have been the recipient of one of his phone calls, you know what i am talking about. he is making phone calls every night, to washington, from wherever he is, to wherever you happen to be. many of you know that i am here because of a phone call. you know you can give more and he will remind you. thank you for being a great vice chairman and serving as our dinnner chairm-- dinner chairman tonight. and i want to thank jon voight for being the mc.it is refreshing --- mc.

and i know he made a very eloquent speech just earlier today and i would recognize senator hatch. >> well, thank you, senator. i'm grateful to have your leadership on the senate judiciary committee. it's a very important issue and i think it's important for us to raise them in advance so that sotomayor at least has some idea what some of the questions will be. this is a very important question for us, the second amendment means a great deal to us. it took a long, long time to get the heller case that finally decided that the second amendment is a personal right. and i think the distinguished from alabama has explained it quite adequately. the senate has to look at judge sotomayor's entire record to looking at hir philosophy and her speeches as well as her cases. now, her second amendment decisions appear to have unnecessarily minimized and confined the scope and vitality of this second amendment constitutional right. even after the supreme court in heller indicated the second amendment protects not only an individual right to keep and bear arms but a preexisting fundamental right. ju

as a, a month to thank them for their thoughtfulness and i also ask unanimous consent that senator hatchbe added as a co-sponsor. >> without objection. >> this is what amendment goes to the drug tax box which has been shown by researchers to give consumers significantly better information and more understandable information. recently fda's risk committee recommended the fda adopt standards to disregard the change, the essential changes that would apply to promotional labeling and printed advertising so it would not a and sustanon beyond the model itself would be promotional advertising, the magazine circulars etc. and this has been agreed to with ranking member. we do not intend angelina to this place in the decision. if they propose this before than the have a year to promulgate the rules so i think this is entirely consistent with a reasonable approach to adopt in this immense senator and see. >> i think the senator for working on this and i don't think the current presentation of drug labeling is helpful, it's a highly technical document designed more for the trial lawyers and the pat

hatch: i thank my colleague. he is so nice in his comments. i am so proud that he is the republican leader on the judiciary committee. he'll do a terrific job and has been doing a terrific job ever since he took over. now, considering that a supreme court nominee is one of this body's most important responsibilities, i come at this wanting to support whoever the president nominates. the president has the right to nominate, appoint. we have the right-to-, it seems to me, to vote one way, up-or-down and determine whether we will consent to the nomination. i can also give advice during this time. only 110 men and women have so far served on our nation's highest court. and president obama has now nominated judge sonia sotomayor to replace justice david souter. our constitutional role of advice and consent requires us to determine whether she is qualified for this position by looking at her experience and, more importantly, her judicial philosophy. president obama has already described his understanding of the power and role of judges in our system

or the bill that senator hatch is working on with senator cornyn and others. those are the way to meet our objectives. is here are our objectives once more, mr. president. we want to provide health coverage to 300 million americans, not just to the 47 million uninsured. we want for you a health care plan that you can afford. we want for you a plan in which you and your doctor make the decisions, not washington, d.c. we want a plan that emphasizes prevention and wellness. we want a plan that gives low-income americans more of the same opportunities and choices for health care that most americans already have. and we want a plan that doesn't make it harder for american businesses to compete in the world marketplace by adding to their costs. we want in the end a program, a health care program that your grandchildren and your children can afford and doesn't keep trillions of dollars of new debt upon them, that devalues the dollars that they eventually will earn and the quality of their lives. and as the president has repeatedly said, the best way to do that is to

i want to say to my friend and colleague, the vice chairman orrin hatch, he has been a warrior in raising money for us. if you have been the recipient of one of his calls, you know what i am talking about. he is making calls a day and night. he is making calls from washington, and utah, and wherever he is to wherever you happen to be. many of you know that i am here because of a call from him. no matter how much you play good the supple, you know that you can give more, and he will be the first person to remind you. thank you for being a great vice chairman and serving as our dinner chairman tonight. [applause] it is a refreshing thing to give the kind of speech from hollywood that he gave tonight. to newt gingrich, he has been an idea factory for our party for many years. we look forward to hearing from you. thank you very much for being here tonight. thank you for your leadership and your ideas. and i want to say to governor palin and her husband, thank you for being here with us tonight. thank you for your great leadership. we appreciate you very much. [applause] now we are going to ha

there was a british cia-hatched coup that was hatched that brought back the shah. host: in a speech made yesterday, he talk abouts brittain. since the revolution, it might be the source for the leader when the government faces its greatest crisis in 30 years. why don't we hear more about this relationship between iran and great britain? guest: i'm going to say for those listening that were born in that culture. there has been a historic animosity between the clerics -- this goes back a century or so and the british. we're talking about the british empire and afghanistan and so on and so forth. there is a famous saying, a famous book that was a slogan that said that everything that happens in iran is work of the british. it is a well-known thing. that goes back to the interest of the british have had in that region, particularly in iran. that is one aspect of it. the other is actually as i monitor the awnian media from state with the opposition newspapers and such. i think the fact that mr. obama has basically not gone out in support of the protestors, he voiced con

jeff we go to you and then we go to orrin hatch. go ahead, tom. >> if we're already spending money in that area, why should we spend more? so what this amendment says is anywhere we're actually doing it already, why spend $8 billion on doing it more? until we know it's making a difference. so if we're already building bike trails through the transportation program and through all these other areas, we shouldn't spend this money on bike trails. we're creating dual and triple streams of money to accomplish the same thing. this amendment says if we're spending the money already through another function of government, through another funding source, that we would not use that -- this money would not be used in that direction. which would mean we would use it in something else. still doesn't drop your amendment, it still doesn't keep us from doing it. but just says once we're doing this with a funding source, why come in with a second funding source to do the same thing where, in fact, there may be a point in time. how many bike trails d

myself and the senator for their cooperation and thoughtfulness and asked the consent that senator hatch be offered as a co-sponsor. >> no objection. >> this is the amendment that goes to the drug fact box which is shown by researchers to give consumers significantly better information, more understandable information recently fdas risk communication unanimously recommends that the f democrada standards to this reregard. it would apply to promotional advertising and it would not be on the bottle itself, but it would be the promotional advertising and the magazines, circulars, et cetera. this has been, again, agreed to with the ranking member. we do not intend actually to displace the decision of the fda, we're telling them to study this for a year, if this propose it go forward, they have a year to pro mul gate the rule. i think it is entirely consistent. >> senator -- >> i thank the senator for working on this and i don't think that the current presentation of drug labeling is technical rkts i think senator reed is on to something with the study and the study proposed, i'm pleased they

senator hatch and i have had nine years of legislation to make a substantial improvement in that. we have created a bipartisan bill. other attorneys have also supported significant improvements in the way that is done. it is not healthy now. we need to fix it. one problem we are having on our side is the finance committee. senator grassley let me know he is, of course, ranking on that committee. senator kyl and senator hatch are also members of that committee. >> i will keep the record open for the rest of the week for additional questions to be submitted. senator cornin. >> thank you, chairman. i want to note that there is no more important chee in the senate than the judiciary committee. >> i do think the finance committee, health committee have taken a lot of our members, and i understand why. >> mr. attorney general, i just have two areas i want to ask you questions about. in november 2008 the department of transportation declared the record complete for continental airlines, and i trust immunized alliance of national airlines. according to u.s. us -- to u.s. codes the secreta

i know he made a very eloquent speech just earlier today and i would like to recognize senator hatch. thank you, senator. i'm grateful to have jÜrgen ship on the senate judiciary committee. i think there are some important issues for us to raise in advance so the justice sotomayor will have some idea of what some of the questions will be. this is a great deal to was. it took a long time to get through the howard case to decide that the second amendment is a personal right. i think the senator from alabama has explained it quite4+% adequately. the senate has to look at judge sotomayor's entire

. >> senator hatch. >> no by proxy. >> senator mutuali in in ing -- >> no by proxy. >> test eign ayes, 13 nays. >> number 72. >> coburn amendment number 72. >> mr. chairman? since we decided we didn't like my idea of sending it all back to states, what this is is a compromise that says, perhaps we would allow hersa to contract in the states for states to put all -- funnel all their stuff into their three most areas of acute short aage. all we're saying with this is, whatever the title is that we've got, whatever we do, this allows hersa to form a contract with the state to funnel all these monies into their three or more acute shortages. we still get money into the state but we add some flexibility into the state based on differing state needs. i think this will give flexibility to accomplish what senator murray is trying to accomplish. it still has control. it allows hersa to be in charge of that control. but it's an imperfect solution as compared to what i offered earlier and was defeated. but i think this one makes some sense, that allows the flexibility to really address the varyi

center hatch and i have worked on issues on mama is going back to 1994. when we both entered, will meet both introduced the shea bill. i know of his strong support for wallace activities. so, i think there has been some really pretty good suggestions that i have seen from the other side on this. not all knowledge reside here with one person or one staff grouping, but the process i think it's going to lead is towards having some significant reforms, reforms, changes in wellness and prevention. but, i will again repeat, nothing comes free. nothing is free. there's no free lunch here. freer pointage dude we are going to have to put some bucks behind it and if we get into a match where to put the box behind it were quantitate the bugs out of medicare or medicaid or existing structures, propension will never get there so we have got to set the structure up, we have got to fund it. we have got to provide the kind of best practices that senator mikulski has come up with intersection in terms of comparative effectiveness and we have got to do the same thing with

senator hatch, senator corner and senator kyle also are members of that important committee. so i'm glad they can at least be here for a while. >> thank you. i'm glad, too. of course i will keep the record open for the rest of the week for additional questions to be submitted. senator corner -- senator cornyn. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i want to note for the record, mr. chairman, there is no important committee in the senate than the judiciary committee -- judiciary committee. >> i liked you anyway. you didn't have to say that. but i do think the finance committee, the health committee, are taking a lot of our members and i understand why. >> mr. attorney general, i just have two areas i want to ask you questions about. in november, 2008, the department of transportation declared the record complete in the continental airlines which is headquartered in houston, texas. their application of joint star alliance and anti-trust immunized alliance of international airlines. according to u.s. code, this means that the secretary of transportation was obligated to make a final decis

. >> all those in favor of the hatch amendment say aye. >> aye. >> those opposed no. >> the nos have it and the amendment is not agreed to. >> i wonder if you would consider an amendment i haven't written that would say if we're going to do this, in this title of the bill, that we're going to eliminate the functions that are duplicative of that outside of it. in other words if we're going to do all this in the bill that we would consider an amendment that says whatever you are doing over here under this program or under this program, now ceases to exist and will be done under this. would you all have consideration for an amendment that might be written this evening -- >> my only thought on that, tom, is sometimes they may appear to be dupe lick caitiff but there's a nuance. it goes to a different target population than this one. if it was exactly the same, sure. but sometimes there's a little difference. >> let me give you an example. if we're going to do something out here to educate people about x, y, z disease and we have this agency over here that's doing education to x, y, z and

enzi who sat in this chair and senator gregg chaired it as wet, we've had senator kennedy and senator hatch, so we've had a number of former chairs who have sat if their this position with a gavel in their hand in the past so they have some appreciation for what it to keep everyone together. some described it as keeping frog that is wheelbarrow. people have a tendency to jump out from time to time. so i appreciate the fact that the foogs have stayed in the wheel barrow, i hope everyone has a healthy, happy, independence day break. i look forward to seeing my colleagues on the 6th of july -- 7th of july, excuse me. the committee will come to order. and this is the second of a series of oversight hearings that i have committed as to undertake at the outset of the recovery act. in december of 2007, when i proposed an initiative to get the economy moving again, programs under the jurisdiction of this committee, actually, we had bipartisan initiatives in this committee to move things forward with the administration at that time. the president was not keen in doing that. not much has changed. the

. >> senator hatch and thank you for your work on this subcommittee. senator rockefeller is not able to be with us would you like to make a one minutes opening statement i would be happy to recognize you. >> just very quickly because i do want to hear from the witnesses and we are pleased to have the new administrator of the faa's and i see. people have confidence and experience and we need to look at the safety side people are anxious to go places they still crowder planes there are still huge chalets but the overriding concern is safety and i mini for holding that. >> let me make one final point* most consumers get on the airplane and all they see is the brand name of the carrier they do not know if it is a major, a commuter or a carrier and a question as we begin to hear the witnesses, should passengers expect that the same confidence -- competence and capability, experience and judgment exist in the cockpit no matter the size of the airplane? if they do not know if it is commuter or major carrier. does it exist today? a lot of evidence suggested th

put a lot of people who think like us and your part of our ranks who have a lot of ideas that were hatched in al's brain or in the lab of will marshall, bruce reed front and cetnenter because he has a good test. the most important thing by far is that any organization committed to finding new ideas that the real challenges will never be out of fashion. there will never be a new time. i was under no illusion that no matter how good a job i did, i could make all the problems in america go away. my goal was to leave you with a new set of problems. i did not want you to be stuck in the same box like a laboratory animal running around in the cage. you just think about the challenges facing the president now and the congress. i think we're going to get a health reform bill. i have been waiting all my life for this. [applause] i think will be able to get one that has republican support. i want one that will not be filibustered. if we just have universal coverage without doing something to break the cost spiral, five years from now, we will not have universal coverage and more, because we will not

guest: no, this program from the start has been hatched in the midst of a terrible financial crisis. one likes the program or says that it has been administered well. this panel that elizabeth warren chaired has looked at the operations of the program. tarp is not popular. but the point that tim geithner and others have made is that it does seem to have some role in having save the financial system last fall. you never know what would have happened if tarp had not been put into place. many of economists say the downturn would have been worse. but this is not a popular program and banks' people are not popular in washington or across the country. but i would not expect public statements of them saying that. host: do you think that if things get into trouble again they can go back for tarp funds? guest: i believe they are. i do not think anyone wants to, though. one of the things about the stress tests is to encourage banks to build up reserves so that they are more solid and can weather another economic downturn. as banks leave the tarp program executives have a strong desire not to r

again, i agree with senator hatch, in fairness to the nominee, we are highlighting issues of concernto us to give her the time to prepare for the questions that we expect to ask her. we look forward to the hearing on the 13th and her candid responses to these questions about important issues. >> on the maloney case, wasn't that opinion that was pure -- that was on the side not by any judge. the heller case, [inaudible] because in heller they had not specifically said they were doing that, this court was just following supreme court precedent. >> i would say that if, in fact, the rights of the stegeman and apply to every american and guarantee -- the rights of the second amendment apply to every american and guarantee the right to keep and bear arms, her position was inconsistent with that decision. we can talk about corporate doctrine and indeed, it takes a restricted view and an unnecessarily cramped view of an individual right to keep and bear arms. >> senator, as was mentioned, this has come up in trees tikrit and likely to come up in the supreme court. how can she -- this has com

cleared 11 amendments and we're going to be looking at a couple of others during the break related to hatch and murkowski. >> i actually counted, i have three, four, five, 60 and 61, roberts number two, and i have enzi number 10, 11, 12, 15, 6 and 96. did i miss one? >> 10, 11, 12, 15 and 96. >> and 96. but i was right on the other ones? three, four -- >> yes. >> that's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, 11. >> yes. we have agreed. >> 96 is a good one, too. we'll talk about that some more. >> pardon me? >> number six is a good one, too. we'll talk about it. >> murkowski number six. enzi number six? i-25? just so we get to bingo, i'm fine, okay? but again, i want to thank our staffs for working through the lunch break and i think this was a great set of accomplishments and we thank you for them. it actually improves the bill. >> senator, we thank you. senator enzi, senator murkowski, senator roberts, who were involved in that and their staffs, respectively. what i'm going to do is a couple of these were as modified but i will ask consent that the amendments as identif

has he lost confidence or what's hatched to limb? >> i think he has lost confidence. i don't know.in his shoes. i just know he has been ineffective and he gives everything he has. his breaking ball has just not been consistent. it hasn't been. he has a great fastball above major league fastball. there is is a slider 3-2. it showed you how good it can be. that ball was not a bad pitch. there he misses while inside trying to throw too hard. he comes back with a good slider, a good pitch a nice piece of hilting. sometimes you have to give them credit. right there tonight, from what i saw, e has good enough stuff. he just does not have good enough stuff all year long. look at what happened thins june 6. he came back in may and re-earned that closer's role with a 3-3 chance. and then, d'angelo, june, he's got a 10.00 earned run average. nine innings pitched and he has given up 10 lunes. that's not real good. i think he has lost his confidence. i hope he hasn't. he is a great kid. he has a great arm, but you can't go in there day in and day out and be ineffective and feel good. >> he has

44, 45, 49, 62, 69, 73, 76, 81, '83, '85, and 92 the accepted, that number number five be accepted, hatch 10, 11, 13, 19, 25, 14 and 17 with some modifications be accepted, burkowski seven, 12, 13, 14, 20 other, 45, 66, 70, 75 and 76, and coburn 35. i ask unanimous consent that all of those i have read the -- >> is there objection? without objection so ordered and the 46 amendments that the senator from iowa has just enumerated are adopted and i think my colleagues for their work on lobbying of that large number can i just a couple of things. in looking over the amendment offered by the republicans signed it seemed to fall into six broad categories there was limiting funding for prevention efforts to the investment fund and workplace wellness, opposing the temporary clinical preventive care for the uninsured and right choices section, limiting the activities of school based health, prevention for the aging, a community prevention and states' concerns. seem to fall and those kind of categories. i don't know, i have just suggested that if we could maybe it works to those that way it might b

senator orrin hatch called the health care plan the complete liberal mishmash of ideas. guest: if there is a nearly unified or unified republican opposition to big government approach is on health care, combined with an alternative approach that addresses people's actual concerns about health care in a more market-friendly way, i think that would be extremely important to a republican revival. it is hard to see such a revival happening is that does not take place. host: our next call, martha, on the republican line, from austin, texas. -- on the independent line, from austin, texas. caller: first of all, you made the comment about you should have private markets and the market economy works. but it does not, or we would not have to bail out gm and all those other companies. second of all, single payer would be run like medicare. medicare -- i am over 70, and it works fine. it runs at low cost, so i do not understand why you are not more or less promoting that. also, you would be given a choice so if you wanted your own company, you could keep your own plan. but also, you

guest: 62,000 figure was something that senator orrin hatch calculated out yesterday from the cbo analysis that was released late yesterday. the health committee bill in the senate would cost more than one trillion dollars. and that is a number that we will see repeated and thrown around a lot in the next few days, because republicans have been saying for a while now that we don't know what the president is trying to do, that is trying to spend so much money and whether or not he will accomplish his goals. if this was a look at the bill, but there were missing parts in it, missing some parts of the health reform program, and where mandates, a public insurance plan that would change the final calculations and there was left out how much medicaid expansion would cost. that would add a couple hundred million dollars to the bottom line. there are other aspects that the candy staff says will increase the number of people who will be able to be in short. 60 million people is all that would be taken off the rolls. that is falling short of where the president said he wanted to be. i am familiar wi

sense of extra non-emergency has provided a useful pretext for opponents of reform to batten down the hatches and deeper on any domestic experiments. it is not clear and cisco lessons of state power is cause for celebration from the u.s. perspective. there are a number of internal trends in the region that predate the iraq war and concerns with iran, related to miss governance, lack of civil society and problems of illegitimacy. many identified after the wake of the september 11th 2001 attacks is been a wellspring of radicalization and terrorism and persistence argues domestic reform should not be sacrificed at the expense of a containment strategy. so i'll leave it to earnings closing speaker to discuss the way board in a regional approach but in this diverse are diverging threat perception in response has shown the question of iranian power is intimately tied to a number of local agendas and parochial interest in the region and these revolvers on a question of arab hierarchy and governance and can be argued that the iranian threat has a certain utility in certain quarters there is important

orrin hatch put out the numbers from the cbo that was released yesterday, that the senate health committee bill would cost more than $1 trillion. that is a number that we are going to see i think repeated and thrown around a lot today and in the next few days because republicans have been saying for a while now that we do not know what the president is trying to do. he is trying to spend too much money and will he accomplish his goals. i think you will hear from democrats that this was a -- that the cbo look at the kennedy bill but there were missing parts of it. it does not look at the bill as a whole, it misses some parts of the health reform program, a public insurance plan that will change the final calculations. it also left out how much medicaid expansion will cost, and that will add a couple of hundred million dollars to the bottom line. there are a couple of other measures that the present -- that kennedy's staff says that will be taken off insurance rolls at at the end of 2017. that is obviously falling way short of where the president said he wanted to be. so i play with that cbo

things are going lately, yeah, overall win-loss record isn't much to write home about, but anybody with hatch brain who knows something about the game can look now and say things are change in washington. >> we'll talk to craig stammen in our show tonight. we had a chance to sit down with the terrific, young, personallable guy. alternates up in yankee stadium euphoric over the win in new york. he put things in perspective as did ryan zimmerman. >> we went out there and took two from the yankees. we went went down there. we had those guys on the ropes, too. here we had them on the ropes all three games. they were able to squeeze one out. we're no rollover for sure. i think teams, they're going to know that. they know that now. at the same time, our record kind of says a lot about what teams are going to think about us. >> it's huge. i think if you look at tampa, we could have easily won 2-3 of those. it looks like we're starting to turn a corner a little bit which is positive. we're still positive here and just continuing to get better and learn from our mistakes and hopefully turn this thing

has put a lot of people who think like us and were part of or ranks and a lot of ideas that were hatched in al's brain or in the lab of will marshall and bruce reed and al and all the other young people that worked for the d.l.c. front and center because he's got a good test. will it work? the third thing i would like to say, and the most important thing by far, is that any organization committed to finding new ideas that meet real challenges will never be out of fashi fashion. there will never be a new time -- i was under no illusion when was president that no matter how good a job i did that i could make all the problems of america go away. my goal was to leave you with a new set of problems. i didn't want you to be stuck in the same old box like the laboratory animal running around in a cage in a circle. and you just think about the challenges facing the president now and the congress. i think we are going to get a health reform bill. i think that -- i have been waiting all my life for this and i think -- [applause] >> i think that we will get one that has some republican support, one

enzi who sat in this chair and senator gregg chaired it as wet, we've had senator kennedy and senator hatch, so we've had a number of former chairs who have sat if their this position with a gavel in their hand in the past so they have some appreciation for what it to keep everyone together. some described it as keeping frog that is wheelbarrow. people have a tendency to jump out from time to time. so i appreciate the fact that the foogs have stayed in the wheel barrow, i hope everyone has a healthy, happy, independence day break. i look forward to seeing my colleagues on the 6th of july -- 7th of july, excuse me. >> today on c-span's "news makers," mike pence depiss cusses his party's legislative priorities this year, including his position on government involvement in health care. >> what we don't need is to introduce a government-run option into our private health insurance system. i know there's a lot of talk about competition and what's wrong -- americans love competition. and i do, too. but the federal government competes with the private sector the way an alligator competes with a du

iran is the extra emergency has provided a useful pretext for opponents of reform to batten down the hatches and if her on any domestic -- domestic experiences. it's not really clear if this coalescence of state power is cause for celebration from the u.s. perspective. there are a number of worries internal trends in the region that predate the iraq war, that we get our policy concerns with iran. they are related to misgovernance, lack of civil society, problems of legitimacy. many were identified after the wake of the september 11, 2001 attacks as being the wellspring of radicalization in terrorism. and their persistence today argues that the domestic reform should not be sacrificed at the expense of a containment strategy. so i will leave it to our next closing speaker to discuss the way forward and a new regional approach, but what i hope the survey of diverse or diverging threat perceptions and responses to ironic has shown is that the question of iranian power is intimately tied to a number of local agendas and parochial interest in the region's. these revolve around long-standing quest