hatcher, the mayor, and they were coming together to find a black person to run for president. a name was mentioned. shirley chisholm had jumped the gun, and they felt that where does she think she's going? she didn't get our approval. the fact of the matter is, i was very cognizant of the fact that i would never get their approval because they would feel that i was crazy and needed to be placed in a straight jacket and i went ahead on the basis of the fact that there were citizens in this country who raised the money for me to make the bid because these citizens felt that i had what it takes. i possessed leadership qualities, i had a clear understanding of the issues, i was a fearless woman, and i was intelligent and that was all. but the only thing that bothered a lot of folks, i was black and i was a woman. >> how did the women's groups that existed at the time respond to your candidacy? >> it was half and half. some of them responded positively and some did not, but an amazing thing happened to me that shocked me i guess for about three years, that the women in the southern