. >> hatra is here, and we are here. a long way, no? >> he obviously didn't believe us.this guy was too intelligent not to know what was happening. we knew our number was up then. >> we had no idea where we were going or where we were to be taken. after hours of drivindriving, w to a large military installation. >> we were brought into this dining hall area. the whole table was laid out for dinner. then tom and i had to sit there and have dinner with them. >> people looking very, very strangely at us and started talking and laughing. something was seriously wrong. >> suddenly, everything took a very, very serious turn for the worse. there was a complete air of coldness about them. it felt like the temperature of that air dropped by ten degrees. >> i recognized him as the iraqi secret police. the iraqi people were terrified of these people because of their ruthlessness. they torture people. they kill people. they are the most terrifying people in the world. >> they moved us very quickly out of that room. there was no delay in anything they did. complete knot in our stomac