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it's great to get your reaction especially after this morning's speech thanks talk to you soon jan hatziusman sachs >> thank you i want to get back to julia boston with the latest on that somewhat unexpected departure of the tiktok ceo mayer >> that's right. a departure earlier than we expected a source says one reason that mayer announced his resignation as ceo was he was excluded from the highest talks with the buyers the parent company ceo -- around negotiations to have microsoft provide cloud services the ceo general atlantic bill ford led the negotiations with oracle even if mayer was participating somewhat in the deal talks he was disney's primary deal maker for year managing the acquisition of fox's entertainment assets marvel and lucas film he's accustomed to leading deal talks in fact sources tell me he did not want to run a small division at microsoft and mayer would have had more autonomy if tiktok was bought or if oracle did. at microsoft his running the division would be less powerful. i'm told he left disney with ambitions of running a large company. the fact that mayer annou