the real problems that black people and brown people's lives are you will have n are you will haver inable in the streets. >> is this the way to get policy change? >> the protest is a way to get policy change. having your voices heard is the way to get policy change. if there had not been an uprising in ferguson, we would not have heard of michael brown. if there weren't stopping the highways in new york, we would haven't heard eric garner. i go back to selma and i think about the new film on selma. dr. king stopped people from walking across bridges and shut down highways, he did it because he needed to put a national attention and national 1spotligt on an issue america had a willful neglect of. >> let me read you something a georgetown professor told the miles about the challenges within protests like the one we're seeing. he said "in the anti-war movement, too, there was a lot of bad publicity but the movement went on and was successful in convincing the public we that we needed to get out of vietnam. in some ways, the test of a successful movement is how you respond. you have to expect