ve been told by the people in the justice dertment that number ne, holr believes havinglooked at these things, having heard aut them and now seeing t details, that he felt you just coudn't walk away fm this and secondly, he thinks that the are other avenues that could be pursed inhese cases that forone reason or anher were not looked at. gwen: sought detailsof which we obviously did notee. i have never seen a docume as heavily redacteds this reort was. so do we haveany sense a all about how de these -- thi overstepping was >> well, yes. we have some sse of it. we knosome of these caes, you ma a reference to it i the begning about a detainee who was blindfolded and had a hood on. and he was naked and thy were running an electc drill a his r to make it sound le they were going to attack m with that. and we'ralso told that some ofhe redcations invold detainees who died. in c.i.a. custody. one those ases was osecuted. but it's -- it's the ttality oft that holder says driled him to do this. >> gwen mentioned at the ginning there's a rit inside the administration. is lee on panetta,the c..a.