. >> interesting, just the other day we were talking about hawkie as he was known there, once leader,looking at this particular election quite a different circumstance. i want to talk about the key issues driving this election. climate change and immigration. climate change the lead issue there as opposed to immigration, which is a key issue here in the united states heading into the 2020 election. could you help our viewers understand why climate change is front and center in australia? >> look, australia is in so many ways the canary in the coal mine when it comes to the way the environment is being impacted by things like fossil fuels. australia has had so much extreme weather, extreme drought, mass flooding. and the great barrier reef which everyone sort of knows australia by, there has been coral bleaching because of heat waves. so the impact of using fossil fuels and having coal mining especially in australia, that is one of the biggest sx ports that australia relies on for its economy, it is a direct impact. and australiians feel that very directly and keenly. and that was actu