black and latin students hawong se out comes than white peers. >> joining me onow. of the researchers who contributed to the report called getting down to facts too. also san francisco chronicle education reporter. jill tucker. welcome to you both. heather, one of the most troublingndings in your study was the achievement gap be even before kids enter kindergarten. how is that so? >> great qestion. this set of studies we want to find out where the achievement gap was happening and who it was affecting most. we have known for a long time we have gaps in fourth and eighth grade. we have those by race income lines by laatuage s. to what this paper and set of studies contributed is that we can see the gaps before students even set foot in school. >> what contributes to that. >> it's a fragmented early childhood system. a fragmented and under funded system. that some say isn't a system at all. children have -- sohen they start, they're on differentfo ting. based on their characteristic coming into school. li in terms of q of child care or preschool education? what are th