for our viewers, we will talk about sochi and security. >> general michael hayden will be joining us.is jobs day. our guest will join us from westpac. we will see you in just a moment. ♪ >> russia welcomes the world to the winter olympics in sochi, the most expensive winter games to be remembered for the wrong reasons. >> the u.s. ramps up airline security is on flight to and from russia. it bans liquids on carry-on luggage. we will be live with the former director of the cia and nsa, general michael hayden, to talk olympic security and nsa troubles. >> america drops the f bomb. bad language rattles relations with the eu over ukraine's political crisis. >> good morning to our viewers in europe. good evening to those in asia and a warm welcome to those just waking up in the united states. i'm guy johnson. >> i am francine lacqua. this is "the pulse." >> an alleged intercepted phone call between top diplomats has lifted the curtain on the u.s. in ukraine and adding pressure to the russian-american relationship as the games get underway. ryan chilcote turns us. telephone conversation all

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director of national intelligence today, jim clapper and the future cia director general michael hayden. at the time they were the head of nga and the nsa respectively so it was quite an incredible position that they would advocate of actually moving their bureaucracies out of the department of defense. this set up the infamous lunch in washington when secretary rumsfeld learned of general hayden and general clapper's efforts to advocate around town on behalf of a more muscular dni, a dni who would control their intelligence agencies and rumsfeld invited him to lunch at the pentagon and to hear general hayden reid tell the story, he says it looks like peace talks between north and south korea as they sat on opposite sides of the table. the only thing missing were the respective flags of their nation. they sat there and argued about whether the dni in the 9/11 commission recommendations would lead to a more successful intelligence community and according to the participants at the lunch secretary rumsfeld slammed his fork into his plate and said he couldn't believe what he was hearing fr

my brother hayden is corn roll. we have corn flake.rn relish. it's a little older. we went with corn relish. i'm sorry, dad. then there's baby corn. my younger sister. you know what we thought? if you want to be an honorary corn, you can be jimmy corn mill. >> jimmy: or cracked corn. or like corned nuts. >> like in mexico, corned nuts? >> jimmy: no, here in the good 'ol united states, we have corn n nuts. >> i have seen them in the store. >> jimmy: in mexico they make them at home. here in the united states, we have them as god intended, packaged. >> i ate them on the row many a times. >> jimmy: speaking of many on the road, this is something you posted to your twitter page. this is a photograph. you were driving a recreational vehicle here. now, is this posed or are you really driving this rv? >> i'm really driving that rv. >> jimmy: why are you driving an rv? >> for me, it was a little bit of a bucket list thing. when i was a kid, i wanted to be a musician and i had a dream of touring on a big massive luxury 37-foot rv. so i decided

general hayden didn't realize the fourth amendment was an international treaty. nor do i. but if you think what you need to get to the point where you have bilateral agreements. i really think that's the way you can do this. germany and the united states agree on what information we are going to share so that their governments can say to their population, we have this under control. we do certain things with foreign intelligence services to protect against terrorism but we do it under louis. i think there has to be that understanding. i don't think we can just ignore the fact that this was kind of kind of a shock to a lot of even our ally populations. what's kind of funny has been the reaction more than in one country where there has been a leader standing up and saying, i'm shocked. the old line from casablanca. i'm shocked there is spying going on here. then three weeks later there's evidence their government is doing the same thing. i think this goes back to let's, over time, get comfortable with what privacy we can expect, where we can expect intrusions, how those intr

general michael hayden and also a principal of the chertoff group and i asked him what this means torussia? >> as important as ukraine is to us, it's absolutely critical to putin and his broader, greater russian federation. secretary kerry has said some things today. he said, you know, this isn't a resemption of the cold war and this could be win/win. and that's noble and, gee, i wish it were so. but this is not win/win for vladimir putin. vladimir putin he views this as zero -- should that affect our behavior? i don't know. but we really have to appreciate that for him this is a zero sum game. he's not looking for a win/win scenario. it is, not my words, but they are wonderful words. it was a description of how the europeans deal with the ukrainian crisis two, three weeks ago and the observation was they brought a baguette to a knife fight. and we need to be very much aware after the -- to the extremes that putin might go to because his perception of this isn't win/win. his perception is win/lose. >> extremes are military confrontation. >> one would hope he doesn't do that. he is go

in your piece, you have kaitlyn hayden the spokesperson for the national security agency, saying theype of operational detail that in our view should not be published, she said. referring to the questions that you both were asking her. you're a former constitutional lawyer. >> the position of the u.s. government is that it is illegal to publish any kind of classified information that you're not authorized to receive, and it is illegal in their view for the government employee or contractor to leak it without authorization, but their view is is actually legal even if you're a to publish it. they believe that is especially the case of the information pertains to what they call signals intelligence. if you look at the espionage act relevantnd other statutes, it does in the say it is illegal in the united states to publish the kind of information. the problem for that view is there's a superseding law called the constitution, the first amendment to which guarantees there shall be a free press and that congress and no other part of the government has the right to interfere with that. one

director of national intelligence today, jim clapper and the future cia director general michael hayden. at the time they were the head of nga and the nsa respectively so it was quite an incredible position that they would advocate of actually moving their bureaucracies out of the department of defense. this set up the infamous lunch in washington when secretary rumsfeld learned of general hayden and general clapper's efforts to advocate around town on behalf of a more muscular dni, a dni who would control their intelligence agencies and rumsfeld invited him to lunch at the pentagon and to hear general hayden reid tell the story, he says it looks like peace talks between north and south korea as they sat on opposite sides of the table. the only thing missing were the reective flags of their nation. they sat there and argued about whether the dni in the 9/11 commission recommendations would lead to a more successful intelligence community and according to the participants at the lunch secretary rumsfeld slammed his fork into his plate and said he couldn't believe what he was hearing from

the outcome of that meeting according to the finance minister michael hayden is the regeneration we perceive as times but they're going to have to be flood defences built into the regeneration programme in the short term but the light towards the coming weeks and months temp read defenses. we f the shadow minister for p with the bike toursts tee lot for generations and also with the light towards higher tides never ever been seen before in the rich and increased risk of flooding in the area diamond thanks to disavow. the high court judge presiding over the criminal courts has warned there would be a tsunami of my gear and prosecutions it into a drinking contest continue his comments come amid corporate social media sites like facebook to remove the nomination page depending to two recent deaths the idea of neck nominate as one facebook page explains it is gonna drink and then nominate a french to do the same humorous facebook pages feature videos all the drinking stumps. but today is senior judge warned of intense drinking contest continue. the resulting tsunami of homicides and prosecutions

speakers are robert hayden, manager of commutesmart and clean vehicle, and william zeller, clean vehicle program coordinator. this is a discussion item. >> thank you so much for coming to talk to us about this. [speaker not understood] is a policy that has phenomenal inat thectiontionxes to reduce the city's vehicle fleet and reduce the, i guess as a side impact the amount of vehicle miles traveled and all that stuff and [speaker not understood] and the problems all that causes ~ intention. and at the same time save money because the city isn't using cars, doesn't have to buy cars and all that good stuff. but i'm not quite sure it's working a planned. so, why don't you tell us about it. [laughter] >> thank you, commissioners, all. appreciate this opportunity. i know this was an item that was originally scheduled in the fall for a report on the previous year's fiscal year's implementation of hacto and that had to be rescheduled. so, i appreciate the opportunity to come and do it now. with me as indicated by monica in introducing the subject, bill zeller is with me on our staff who manages

to hear general hayden retold the story he says it looked like peace talks between north and south korea as they sat on opposite sides of the table. the only thing missing were the respective flags of their nation. they sat there and argued about whether the dni in the 9/11 commission recommendations would lead to a more successful intelligence community and according to the participants of the lunch secretary rumsfeld slammed his work onto his plate and said he couldn't believe what he was hearing from two people who had warned -- worn the uniform of their country that the dni should not have control or any additional control over the intelligence agencies and the department did and so needless to say the lunch ended badly and the rest is history. these bureaucratic divisions in the book goes through this were reflected in the argued aggressively throughout august 2004 in the national security council as george bush's advisers tried to color in exactly what president bush's beliefs would be in a piece of legislation that he later sent to the hill on what the future intelligence communit

talk about this case is the executive director of the partnership for civil justice fun mara for hayden healthier thank you so much for coming on mark thanks for having me so mark how did he get these injuries when he was arrested that he was assaulted in such a way that you just showed as secretary clinton was giving a speech in which he was admonishing other governments about the importance of defending dissent and allowing freedom of speech and allowing protests mr mcgovern stood completely silently and he turned his back completely silently and that's all he did and then he was grabbed brutally assaulted by officers inside the auditorium just feet away from secretary clinton they put him in a headlock they grabbed him and put him in a contorted position he was terribly bruised he had lacerations they put him in tight metal cuffs two pairs of tight metal cuffs he was bleeding all over he had to have treatment at the scene but while this is going on they drug him out and then he was interrogated by someone who was with the department of state security division and what we learned subs

and i will "my general hayden. he didn't realize the fourth amendment was an international treaty, nor do i but i do think what you need to get to as a point where you have bilateral agreements. i really think that is the only way you can do this but germany and the united states agree on information we are going to share so that their governments can say to their populations we have this under control. we do certain things with foreign intelligence services to protect against terrorism but we do it under limits. i think there has to be that understanding. i don't think we can just ignore the fact that this has come as a shock to even our allied populations. i think it's kind of funny the reaction of more than one country where there has been a leader standing up and saying i am shocked. i am shocked they ers is spying going on here in three claytor claytor -- three weeks later there is evidence of their government is doing the same thing. i think this goes back to less overtime get comfortable with what privacy we

i think sixty four had nothing to do with the vietnam war or if it did it was very peripheral tom hayden and the people who wrote that it was all about social justice economic and racial and gender and i mean a very big dissent against the cold war and this division yes between both this time terry and socialists on the one hand and this the capitalist military industrial complex on the other which it was it denounced yes and so maybe were seen that rebooted i don't know. what what do you think you know many historians say that the you know the general the wealth that we had in the sixty's was the main thing animating guys to that era i think i think the prosperity was assumed for a lot of middle class kids and it made them. very free to experiment in a whole bunch of ways and to do movements and to do politics out of that economic security and reading of we're going to have a very different politics now because for a bunch of middle class kids and working class kids they don't have that economic security so it will both constrain their politics but it was also formed in different ways w

that is michael hayden, former head of u.s. national security agency and former head of the cia. he responded to the latest move around the sochi games, the u.s. banning all liquids and gels from carry-ons. >> in circumstances like this, it is hard to define excess, so let's be safe. clearly this is a high visibility event, the kind of iconic target terrorists like to go after, so let's be extra cautious. >> ok, so you got security, construction, third issue? russia's anti-gay legislation. the law bans distribution of "propaganda and nontraditional sexual relations to minors," that basically means it is illegal to suggest that homosexual relationships are equal to heterosexual relationship. google making a statement, the search engine posting this rainbow-colored logo. underneath it quoted "the olympic charter saying that every individual must have a possibility of practicing sport without discrimination of any kind." it is not just google taking a stand. at&t joined the human rights campaign to request the ioc sponsors ban the olympics. procter & gamble, coca-cola, they have fac

in the draft and we will get a great quarterback and the best corner back in the league with john hayden. it is important you put all of the money you have on the browns winning the super bowl next year >> thank you for a nice talk. enjoyed it. i would put myself in the happy category. i was wondering based on the research and work you put in in writing your book. have you discovered traits as to why some people can easily be happy in life and people who go through life not being happy? >> well, i am going to give you my completely honest answer but preference it by saying this isn't impedement to changing. but i think unhappy parents produce unhappy children. the author of t tthe "homecoming" where he came from an orphanage. he is a happy person. if you have a negative, terrible family it is hard to get started on the road. i don't think it is impossible because i have met people who have recovered from other things and terrible things. i write about aa in the "the happiest life" in how they have redeemed so many lives. i have had a great number of people go to sponsors who guided them.

official confirmation on the record about this in the national security council spokesman caitlin hayden discuss the dee tails of our efforts but there is no doubt we work every day using our military intelligence and diplomatic tools to see sergeant bergdahl returned home safely. as you say, military officials told you the development is related to outgoing afghan president hamid karzai trying to get him to sign the bilateral security agreement. how would this encourage him to sign this? >> right. we should add that president car si says a lot of different things to a lot of different people. but what he said recently is he won't sign the agreement until peace talks with the taliban start. he doesn't want to go out as the president who ceded to foreign powers. he wants to go out as the president who made peace. he's asking for a number of things, the pakistanis to release senior taliban leader, he's releasing his own taliban people in afghanistan, and he's asking us to release taliban commanders in guantanamo bay. he thinks these will be carrots that will entice the taliban to come to t

that is the reception general hayden had gotten when he had done the presentation was mixed to say the least. leads me to this question. given the impact of the technology and the culture shift on the ability to maintain theational security and role that academia has played in the culture shift as it pertains to the contextual nature of how increasing information is looked at, what role do you think academia could play in shift thing that contextual framework so that it is more fair-minded toward the intelligence community? ensure awe do to narrative supportive of the united states is more effective? >> wow. [laughter] there are times when you would be testifying in the senate and i would tell people who would have to cover for me that it was a committee that now vice president biden was on, this is not a partisan thing. he is just a very nice person to deal with. him i would say while he is talking, look for the question someplace. there is a little bit of that here. our as the culture of the academic world, the only thing you can help is the tide comes in and the tide goes out. gener

kaitlyn hayden, spokeswoman for the national security council telling me today via e-mail, "on the questionf cyber, i'm, again, not going to discuss the details of our interagency deliberations bullet we have been clear that there are a range of tools we have at our disposal to protect our national security including cyber." and she added that the president always wants to know what all his options are. and is constantly looking at every possibility for solving the problem of syria. >> a lot of risks in such an operation. >> yeah, among those risks, what happens after an attack? who might benefit? which of the rebel groups would take advantage of any weakness brought about by an attack? exactly the same concern that has prevented president obama from taking any other kind of significant military action in syria. and as jim carafano of the h heritage foundation told me earlier today, there's a question of how much information we might hand to our potential enemies if we do act. listen. >> every time you use this weapon, you're basically telling the enemy what kind of ca capabilities you have

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interview with bloomberg tv, former cia director michael hayden said the concerns might be unnerving.f true, it might not be all that. -- all bad. >> i was simply make the assumption that if you are going to sochi, you will be intercepted. voice and data. rubsch as that kind of a nerve, in terms of security, that might have something. >> watch the full interview on bloomberg.com. >> rich. nsa director saying that the russians are going to spy on people at the olympics and that strikes a liberties nerve. do you not see the irony? >> haven't you heard, ing said heive k russians were not cooperating the way the greeks did. fired,ers are getting others are quitting amid currency exchange fixing scandal that could be bigger than the libor case. morning, new details emerging that indicate the bank of england actually condone the practice, echoing accusations that the central bank was behind the libor fixing scheme as well. we are here with richard farley, partner in the leveraged finance practice of all hastings. why don't you break this down. .t is such an amazing game british bankers and

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we want to bring you something from nsa director michael hayden for just a boat -- who just spoke torg. we are talking to you, olivia sterns. >> i would make the assumption if you're going to sochi, you will be intercepted. voice and data. as much of that kind of rubs an nerd,d civil liberties and serve -- nerve, in terms of the security of the get-go maybe that will add something. >> there are also reports, a russian official said something about we can see you in your shower, and we can see you. -- move their showerhead, turn on, walk out the room, and he moved there is weight, they are videotaping us in the shower? >> there was a james bond movie and they seem up the room, and in the mirror came a you can see the doubt where the camera is. i am not suggesting they're doing that is sochi -- >> no, it is right above the shower, actually. [laughter] >> really? >> let's take a look at pictures -- we have got the olympic theme going on. the first is canadian snowboarder max parrott. slope-style in snowboarding. >> this is the one shaun white pulled out of because he said it was too dan

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i have heard general hayden say he is not sure how his predecessors were able to do all of the work that is required across the missionaries in the central intelligence agency but by the same token i don't think the cia wants to have the dni trying to get between the cia and the national security council. as you know the national security council and the cia have a hold in every presidency. of course we are aware of all the famous stories from the eisenhower and kennedy years and what the cia was doing and that's the source of the relationship where the cia is called the president's agency. the president over time wanted to affect national security policy and realize realized they didn't have enough tools to do it or at least didn't have what they wanted to do a medium source of action between diplomacy and military action. i think that's why they rely on covert action to this day as a lever to influence national events and i don't think the cie dni trying to play an oversight role over what their activities are. >> a couple of -- oversight. some of them are unworkable for instance. havi

that is the reception general hayden had gotten when he had done the presentation was mixed to say the least. that leads me to this question. given the impact of the technology and the culture shift on the ability to maintain operational security and the role that academia has played in the culture shift as it pertains to the contextual nature of how increasing information is looked at, what role do you think academia could play in shift thing that contextual framework so that it is more fair-minded toward the intelligence community? what can we do to ensure a narrative supportive of the united states is more effective? >> wow. [laughter] there are times when you would be testifying in the senate and i would tell people who would have to cover for me that it was a committee that now vice president biden was on, this is not a partisan thing. he is just a very nice person to deal with. it is time for him i would say while he is talking, look for the question someplace. there is a little bit of that here. i think as our as the culture of the academic world, the only thing you can help is

contained in the article was the statement from the national security council spokeswoman caitlin hayden who said an intelligence report on the belarus software was recalled by the intelligence community shortly after it was issued. i'm wondering if you could comment on why that intelligence report was recalled after it was issued and also could you tell this congress and also the american people why in the world health and human services shouldn't immediately shut down and properly stress it's the healthcare.gov web site to insure that consumers are protected from potential security risks from across the globe? >> well, i'll have to get back to you on that. i'm not familiar or aware of the article. >> you aware of the problem? >> no, i'm not. i don't, fortunately, the affordable care act is not my, not my responsibility. >> where but, director clapper or -- >> we'll look into particularly the allegation about a report being withdrawn. i don't know anything about it, we'll have to get back to it. >> director clapper, the article says u.s. intelligence agencies last week urged the obama a

contained in the article was the statement from the national security council spokesperson am a caitlin hayden, who said an intelligence report on the belarus software was recalled by the intelligence community shortly after it was issued. i wonder if you can comment on why the intelligence report was andlled after it was issued also could you tell this congress and the american people why in the world health and human services shouldn't immediately shut down and theerly stress test healthcare.gov website to ensure the consumers are protected from potential security risks from across the globe? >> i will have to get back to you on that. i am not familiar with the article. >> are you aware of the problem? >> i am not. the affordable care act is not my responsibility. clapper -- director --pper >> i don't know anything about it, i will have to get back to you. clapper, the report says u.s. intelligence agencies urged the obama administration to check its new health-care site. you are the director of national intelligence. you are not aware of this threat agency u.s. intelligence last week urged

but when dick cheney and george bush and michael hayden said, we need the nsa program expanded, republicansin place. let's continue to use it, a lot of people say, well, that's bad. what i'm trying to say is maybe there might be some merit to the program. i give rand paul credit because he's standing up doing something that's not politically necessarily expedient for him. but it george bush looked at the intelligence and said we need to amp this and barak obama, two people who couldn't be more different politically say i need the nsa working in high gear, collecting the meta data, straining it through to keep us safe, there might be some merit to it. >> but using presidential power versus popularity of the program and whether people want that out of their government. >> if we tell everybody everything about the program, there is no sense having the problem. >> people say -- government is doing something to protect us, fine. but if they're doing it to invade our privacy in some fashion and it's not forgetting us, then we have problems. so i think that's why the lawsuit has been brought. >> t

>> go to the hayden planetarium. >> let's talk about obamacare. you would think in my humble opinion that after you can keep your plan if you want to keep your plan, you can keep your doctor if you want to keep your doctor and the president saying maybe i shouldn't have done that, anybody with that inaccurate statement should be reeled in and told hold your fire but that did not stop kathleen sebelius from trying to walk back the truth. >> it certainly isn't stopping them from trying to continue to gather the number needed as they predicted by the end of this month. we're 30 days away from that seven million number originally projected, targeted by the white house and impels -- and kathleen sebelius kept saying four million. they have a lot of work to do before the end of the month. take a listen. >> because of you, we now have four million americans who have signed up for quality private health insurance through the marketplace exchanges. four million people have already signed up because of you. four million. four million. four million. that's o

he joined hayden's party in montana. they proceeded to fort ellis and soon entered the fabled region of yellowstone. moran worked closely with the expedition photographer, william henry jackson. together they selected the most impressive views. moran made drawings and watercolor sketches, blocking in forms d contours, quickly noting the colors of the terrain and the sulfurous deposits for which yellowstone is named. back in newark, new jersey, moran began what he termed his "big picture," "the grand canyon of the yellowstone." for moran, the spiritual, natural and aesthetic realms should blend to create a great impression. to that end, he combined different points of view into oneramatic panorama. moran explained, the precipitous rocks on the right were really at my back when i stood at that point. yet in their present position, they are strictly true to pictorial nature. my aim was to bring before the public the character of that region. narrator: reporting to congress, hayden suggested that the geyser region of yellows

this is in honor of mike hayden, one sports analogy. i thought of this as being like mike shanahan. i almost said the late mike shanahan, saying i don't have a problem like defense. i have a problem with my defensive line, my linebackers and my backs. you gotta problem with the whole and that is the problem we have got with our defensive systems. we have 20th century structures dealing with the twenty-first century environment and that is not going to work. i am pleased my former agency has linked organizationally. its counterintelligence and security functions but i don't think that has to be the model for everyone. structure in the 21st centuries this importance and process. you can put people where you want structurally and communicate well and you will get past the structure. i still have these great fear is when i see wiring diagrams to think that that is really a metaphor. that is a metaphor of an industrial model and yet we think those are very real. over at decade ago, in the twenty-first century contest between bureaucracies and networks networks will win. i look at our gov